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  1. ahhh, coming again with the multiple comments!! is it actually christmas and i just missed that, or!! god, thank you thank you thank you!!!!

    ok 1. fuck your dad sorry but that's so rude and unwelcome?? like Do Not Comment On Anything I Do That Involves Food Thx. i'm glad this fic is a bit of safe place for you in light of that shit :( and i'm glad you can depend on it to not be dumb and skew nutrition and food things, haha, i got you.

    yes!! it was really important to me, that noct's depressive episodes be called out for what they are. and aww yes, these sweet retainers know the drill at this point, and they just want what's best for their prince <3 they know how to handle him. i feel you on people with that Nike attitude, like. bitch. i can't just do it, you gotta help me out here.

    naturally these perceptive retainers *know*, but yeah, unfortunately not enough to help noct understand he's really not doing anything wrong here :(

    haha! i didn't even notice i inadvertently switched up their roles until you pointed that out :) it just felt natural to me because yeah, ignis would literally do anything for noctis (and that new episode ignis trailer just confirms that, wew.)

    i really enjoy hearing your thoughts on the internal homophobia crescendo moment. thank you for those <3

    haha, gladio is the best mom. and king of strange food combinations c: the shield likes ramen and he likes burritos, what can he say,

    all of the confrontation comments there are great <3 iggy IS DEFINITELY the "hide the body" guy, haha.

    i'm glad you're still watching out for what prompto must be feeling inside, it's always a good thing to hear that you're still on the prowl for everything left unsaid. :)

    hahaha i'm laughing, i wish they got whacked off. hm hm hm! just don't forget about them, is all i can say. ;)

    yeah :( how can noct even consider the idea that he'll find that emotion he feels for prompto in anyone else? he's too enamored... but sadly, the weight of the kingdom comes first. (and the fact that he firmly believes prom is straight)

    yay for celebrating prompto!!! yay for noticing the cake!! ((which i definitely make a point to bring up in the next chapter, haha))

    i'm glad you're glad! yeah, things unfortunately don't get 100% wrapped up and neatly taken care of in one little chapter, but it is a good step. so glad it's realistic, as always <3

    PLEASE BE MY GAY MOM. unfortunately it's not just fears, it's reality :( like, it's guaranteed that if i came out as bi i would be legitimately disowned. no leeway there. it's just a fact of life. oops, i wrote myself into noct. surprise. hah

    i'm happy that you're alright, though, on that front. it isn't a good feeling :( but it is what it is.

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    1. :3c im so happy that you like all that i have to say, that you like all my long, details ramblings. it's so gratifying to me!

      god i know right?? oh but he's "concerned", vom. it wasn't even butter, it was margerine so like, get it right buddy! grouse, grouse. i knew you'd understand. im glad i can trust this fic and you, so even when sad things happen it's like. not anything that'll make me feel like shit or otherwise trigger me. the kind of angst i can handle and enjoy.

      pff nike. sounds about right. im happy it's named! since so often it's not, and dismissed, and all that. i really did enjoy how ignis and gladio managed noctis to help him out. even moreso, i like how this is a routine they've established, because they've known and helped for a long time, and have come up with a response to it. honestly that kind of reliability is a blessing with mental shit going on.

      yeah it'd be hard to handle even without the internalized shit, but they probably think noctis either isn't aware or is shy. more angst! im sure they'd be super helpful if they knew.

      hell yeah! i mean, they're common roles in fic at least, esp since gladio is known to have a temper, but gladio is above all a shield, and ignis is fiercely protective, you're right. he's also proactive! no spoils but theres one thing he does near the end thats super ballsy and just confirms how far ignis is willing to go to save noctis.

      you're welcome! i feel like sussing out exactly what noctis is thinking is important, because it shows where and how noctis's thinking is wrong and painful. like he doesn't even think about the hypothetical wife being a friend or a person he'll interact with, he just sees marriage as this sword of damocles he's gonna have to put up with. another responsibility put on him by birth, like the ring or the throne. a cold comfortless inevitability that he's nonetheless trying to avoid thinking about in too much detail. relatedly luna/noctis/prompto is one of my fave ot3s partly because it subverts that expectation. noctis gets to marry two people he loves, luna has two husbands and is Winning, and prompto gets x2 attention and affection.

      gladio is totally under-utilized as the mom friend. i bet he gives really good hugs too. lmao i love the weird food combo honestly, even if i thought carb x2 is a bit excessive, but hey burritos can also have rice! it's just a plate of ramen w a toasty wrapping!

      im glad! i mean its a repeat of prompto's earlier scaretrauma with being held down For His Own Good, so theres just so much going on between the lines. im always looking for what's also going on because of what we know about everyones perspective. there's always something to find and thats really rewarding to me, to think about what prompto or noct is feeling, and why they react as they do.

      pff, gladio would be going "what???" while ignis is already calculating garbage routes and decomp times. gladio has more of a bad boy look but he's from a prestigious family serving the crown! meanwhile ignis somehow manages to make coeurl print and snakeskin pants fit in seemlessly with formal wear. this is a guy who pushes dress code thats for sure. who knows what else iggy's capable of? :p

      that's ominous, so i definitely wont now XD; now im gonna have to wonder how that's gonna play out. wont be a de-escalation, thats for damn sure, but offhand im picturing travelling to prompto's school or nearby to ambush him again...

      ugh, it's sad how noctis really thinks he's putting his duty above his feelings... almost noble, that, if he wasn't suffering so much too. especially since he thinks prompto is straight, which as we've seen is g r e a t (not) for his self esteem on the matter.

      yay!! ;; yeah id never miss the cake, prompto's been way too focused for way too long to be okay with a cake. poor guy.

      it is! honestly it'd be dissatisfying and almost insulting if, after all this misery, the recovering was just slapdash together so quickly, with only a shallow resolution and not addressing so much. the c has to match the pace of the h, that's just good writing! and more realistic that he needs a prolonged and repeated recovery process. shit's hard

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      ack, i wasn't sure so i didn't want to make a definitive statement in case. thats really shitty and my mom feelings just intensify. you deserve better parents!! you shouldn't have to worry about such a drastic thing just because you're bi. i can definitely see why you decided to write noct with his struggles. i mean what else is deep issues fic for if not to project urself right? that way other people see it and relate and/or sympathize and honestly it can be pretty healing sometimes. i know reading this fic has been cathartic to me.

      yeah :( thats why i dont really seek validation from them and try to connect with other lgbt people instead, people who relate. i hope you'll be okay.

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      1. ewwww yeah fuck that thinly veiled 'concern' angle. gross gross gross. sorry you gotta deal with that at all :/ :( i'm so happy/honored that my fic is a bit of a safe haven, in those instances.

        i like that you like how i've set up noct's depressive episodes!! yes, it's definitely old hat at this point, efficiently dealt with. he's got the best retainers <3 and they'd definitely be super helpful if they knew what noct thought about his bisexuality!! they just.. don't know, sadly :( for now!

        oooo, sword of damocles. i learned a new term/mythological story today, thank you! but you're right, noct only considers marriage as some sort of cold political process, it's quite sad :( i love that summary of luna/prompto/noctis?? i've never actually read a fic with this combo but you're so right, it hits everything so neatly and everyone is happy. aww, i love that!!

        now i'm sad because i'll never know the immense comfort that is sure to come from a gladio hug :c i need to find a buff 6'5" dude right away. plate of ramen with a toasty wrapping! what a cute description!!

        yes, exactly!! like, nobody except us + prompto realize just how bad it is that he's being held down, and i'm happy you've kept these things in mind! i always keep in mind what my characters have been through when i decide how they react to something from a different POV. it's nice to see you recognize that, and are looking for it as well :))

        LMAO i'm dying, that's so real. god. the perfect crime, committed by someone who you'd never suspect... until you look at his pants, and realize what a deviant he truly is. hahaha!!

        it definitely won't be a de-escalation 0:) but that's all i'll say!! don't expect it anytime soon though, months of content have to happen between now and then haha

        it is noble, in a twisted and unnecessary way :'( poor noct, he's just trying to be a good prince. he's really trying!! and yeah, thinking prompto is straight is just adding this entirely new layer of "oh god, now i'm that gay friend" that he really doesn't need on top of all the nobility crap.

        no no no, no slapdash and quick recoveries here, never :')) i love drawing everything out. <3

        (electric boogaloo i fucking snorted)

        i do deserve better parents :(( but hh. this is just the way it is, i guess, with an older, religious generation. from the middle east. i'd expect nothing different. just sucks that it's the case, and i can only do better by my own kids :( lmao exactly. this whole fic was born from projection, it only makes sense to continue that tradition. while being careful to actually make it seem realistic and true to character, of course. i'm glad this fic has been as cathartic to read as it is to write <3

        i think i will be. ahh. unfortunately my story won't end on a happy note (like noct's will), and that whole straight-marriage thing will definitely be my reality. it isn't too bad. it's not as if i can't love a guy. just sucks to think about the world i'll always be missing out on. hhhh. at least i haven't fallen in love with a female friend? won't be as painful, if i don't know what i'm missing. :p

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