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  1. ether_fanfic on Chapter 113 Fri 25 May 2018 10:23AM UTC

    Some people certainly have a rock-solid faith. Is it borne from their own experiences, being brought up in an environment with faith so as that seems the truth, or is there more to it? I've certainly met some religious people that are almost smug in their own faith, but also others that seem more.... accepting, and yet certain, a bit like how your mother sounds.
    Her comment about humanity not being alone does seem profound. I guess for a lot of us uncertain/agnostic peeps (or at least for me), it's a case of wondering - what's the point of this? How could this/life all come about if there wasn't a higher purpose behind it, something beyond our understanding on this plane? Doesn't life seem too...miraculous, at times (and equally tragic) for it just to be a melting pot of soup?
    I dunno. I'm afraid I don't have anything profound to offer. I like your thoughts on comparing humanity to aliens/other creatures... although there are stories out there with species very unlike humans (think hive minds or similar), it's the human-like ones we gravitate towards most, because they are easier to relate to, to empathise with.
    My mother is spiratulist - no defining religion, just this unshakeable belief/career in things like auras, healing, stuff like that I won't go into, but her faith is seemingly unshakeable despite sceptism (aethiest spouse also). Maybe we are the generation that question, but ultimately remain unsure.

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    1. WispFire+2 (Guest) on Chapter 113 Sat 26 May 2018 10:40AM UTC

      You know, it's funny how this "pics, or it didn't happen" mentality has become such a prevalent way to observe our world. Many people do not even take to consideration that there are actually a lot of things in our current day to day lives that we cannot see or touch, yet we interact with these intangible things all the time without even realizing their reality and unreality.

      For example; can you take a picture of "math"? I could present one with an equation 1+2=3, but that's not math, that's an equation. Or how about "value"? I could show one a pile of gold and they would consider it valuable, but what they would see is a pile of gold, not the idea "value". We are surrounded by invisible ideas (one could liken these ideas to god in a way), yet it is the tangible that most sought for. Who's to say that god can't be as real as an idea?

      In my opinion, and this may sound a little disheartening at first, life has no meaning. Sure, I can't explain how something as unique as life came to existence, but I just can't see any grand point to it. We were born, but I don't think that there is such thing as destiny waiting for us, not one I could understand atleast (other that perhaps determinism). But, that's not to say that there can't be reason to live. For instance, one could devote their life to raising a family. That would be their "meaning of life". And in a way, that is both a miracle and a tragedy, because if we do not make something out of our lives, then our lives truly are naught, but if we do, then just as long as we are satisfied with ourselves, then life was worth it.

      Yeah, there are a lot of other inhuman fantasy/scifi beings that are so beyond human understanding that they truly deserve the title "alien". But, this is where god draws the difference. He isn't something completely and utterly outside human. "God made human as a reflection of himself". It's weird to think, but even though god may be infinite, infallible, etc, he's still intrinsically like us and this may go double when it comes to Jesus Christ. Honestly, I can't wrap my mind around an idea like that.

      Jesus Christ... who was he really? Was he the son of god as in legends, or was he just an incredibly lucky/unlucky human who just by chance became bigger than life itself? One of the mysteries we may never know... or, maybe there's still something little we all should know.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJUhlRoBL8M

      Humanity is in a developing state, though when is it not? Not too long ago, humans could not fly, yet now we are reaching for the cosmos on the wings of science. Science... how has it changed our world... yet how little have humans changed themselves...

      It's funny, when I speak with my mother about these things, she says that I'm a true Orthodox, despite what I might say of myself. If she's right, then I guess people can be Christians without even realizing it themselves.

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      1. ether_fanfic on Chapter 113 Wed 06 Jun 2018 10:46AM UTC

        Y'know, I immediately tried to google image search "a picture of math", and didn't get very far, hahaha. I hear what you are saying. Concepts are harder to grasp.
        I guess the meaning of life is what you make of it - while living, anyhow. Who knows what is beyond. As for God making us as a reflection of himself, who's to say that means the physical? Maybe it's merely the experiences we go through that is the reflection.
        I always took the "son of god" thing to be a metaphor - not that I'm at all biblical, but I kinda took the meaning that we are all children of god, and maybe Jesus was simply a more enlightened soul than most.
        Though, no doubt, I'm trudging into blasphemy here, and I will readily admit I am not very school in any many of religion.
        I'd like to think humans have changed a lot, although I guess it's hard to compare without a time-machine. I just don't think the majority of humans back in, for instance, the Dark Ages, had the education or the time or the surroundings to question their existence and the world around them the way we can now. One can only hope that as humans keep developing, we do so in a way that is more positive than negative (although that, too, can be in the eye of the beholder.)

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    3. WispFire+2 (Guest) on Chapter 113 Sun 03 Jun 2018 08:54PM UTC

      ... You’re taking a bit of time and I got worried. I'm sorry if I got carried away or made you feel uncomfortable. I sometimes get too caught up by the sound of my voice and it makes me forget to stop and think how others might feel. And all that I said... I can see how some of that might’ve been overboard.

      Or, maybe you’re just busy with life. I'm wount blame you if there are other things you need to pay attention to first. Everyone’s got priorities.

      In any case, I'd still like to hear from you. In the case I bothered you, we can talk about stuff you'd prefer. Or if you’re busy, take your time, I'm just a disembodied voice in the web. (:

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      1. ether_fanfic on Chapter 113 Sun 03 Jun 2018 11:58PM UTC

        You're fine! Trust me, I'm all good, it's refreshing to have such a conversation - even with a disembodied voice in the web ;-)

        Nah, just caught up in RL, haven't had the chance to formulate a decent reply to your previous post. Free time has been scarce.... and the next chapter has been dogging my heels a bit. I'm 8 out of 9 POVs down, in draft format though, and it's officially my longest chapter yet. Sometimes I think I don't know how to be succinct.
        (cough... ok, at near a mil words, perhaps that's a given).

        I'll reply to your other post shortly. You make me think y'know... that's a good thing :-)

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