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ibrithir-was-here asked:
Can I be a bit selfish and ask for a 🌟and your commentary on Dr. Facilier's emotional attack on Ernesto in the PAFT oneshot you did?
You got it.
From Dealing With Shadows, a PATF x Coco crossover:
First off, I was super excited to write this scene because Dr. Facilier and Ernesto De la Cruz are my two favorite Disney villains of all time and I was eager to see how similar but different their kinds of villainy are when put side by side.
A similarity that they both have is that they’re very blunt about what they want. Other villains are usually interested in their evil quests because of a dark backstory that drives them to want revenge or pull elaborate heists to get the object they desire (a coat of Dalmatian fur, revenge for not being invited to a baby shower, a genie, peter pan’s head in exchange for a severed hand), but Facilier and De la Cruz are so much more straight forward than that.
What do they want? Money, fame, and power. Why do they want it? Just...because. What on-screen explanation do we get for why they’ll go to such lengths for it?
Not really any to speak of actually.
They just want it, they reaaaaaally want it, and they want it NOW.
No lengthy monologues about being disgraced by the scientific community and needing a bird skeleton to redeem themselves, no griping about being mistreated as the emperor's overlooked elderly advisor, not even a single word about being left on a shelf in a collector’s edition box for their entire lives.
They want money and they want power. Which at the end of the day, are the most basic selfish desires humans all have. We want control of our lives and the ability to live it comfortably in whatever manner we choose while enjoying what we do. Facilier and Ernesto end up being very stark representations of these simple desires when taken too far, but without lengthy explanation, which makes them the most fun to headcanon for in my opinion.
But even though they have the same desires they differ in how they seek to get it. A key difference between them is that Facilier plays the long game with elaborate planned schemes and twisted deals and unhealthy alliances to get what he wants, and he doesn't care that his lifestyle makes him a visibly shady individual. He knows he’s made deals with devils and loves it.
Ernesto, on the other hand, is far more impulsive and desperately wants to be loved and admired, meaning everything he does is carefully hidden and rationalized and sanitized. Why does he poison Hector? He panicked. Why did he throw Miguel off a building? He panicked. Where Facilier knows he’s scraped his way into every good thing he’s ever stolen, Ernesto instead believes he deserves the power and wealth and fame he gets, and instead lashes out at anyone or anything that he perceives to be threatening what’s his. Whether that’s Hector’s time and talent, or his established reputation and fame in the LOTD.
So when these two get together it’s not really two villains in one place who are evenly matched in badness, it’s actually one very evil and crafty man who is able to manipulate the fears and self-consciousness of one very proud and entitled man. In fact Facilier’s weakness (the over-confident belief that his next big success is right around the corner, meaning that it’s fine for him to go deeper into debt in an eternally higher stakes game of catch-up) makes him even more powerful over Ernesto, who craves and seeks to project his own missing sense of self confidence.
It’s honestly too easy for Facilier to get Ernesto right where he wants him, cornering him right into his own selfish plan as easily as you might trap a spider under a glass cup.
(Also I really really enjoyed writing the visuals of the playing card illustrations, I watched the PATF tarot card song a million times while writing the oneshot and could see the cards for the oneshot in my mind’s ye really clearly. Also also I adore writing dark magic so it was a treat to write Undead!Facilier in his full spooky glory.)
agent-numbuh-227 asked:
PATF AU: How did Naveen and Tiana meet the Riveras?
One of the performances they were booked for took place in Tiana’s Palace, and when Hector met up with Naveen afterward they ended up talking ALL NIGHT. Imelda went to settle financial accounts with Tiana, and when it became apparent that their husbands weren’t going anywhere anytime soo they started chatting each other up and were delighted to have found a kindred spirit.
Ernesto sat in the corner becoming increasingly grumpy before stomping out to go back to their hotel. The next day the Rivera’s luggage was brought over to Tiana’s Palace since they’d accepted their invitation to stay over there instead of at the hotel.
agent-numbuh-227 asked:
Say, what happened to Ernesto after the whole PATF thing? Was he rescued or did Faciler's Friends on the Other Side ate his soul or something? Did Coco found out about her parents' adventure?
Ernesto was an absolute jealous fool in the Princess and the Frog AU, he should have known better than to get involved with a brujo. His deal with Dr. Facilier gets Tiana, Naveen, Hector and Imelda turned into animals, but the bigger problem is that Ernesto is dragged headfirst into the other side to be traded in Facilier’s place so that the voodoo man can escape his debt to his “friends.” Ernesto is told that he’ll be the greatest star, but he didn’t realize that it would be in the entire land of the dead.
Once he’s been dragged over he panics as his hands start becoming skeletal. He’s cheerfully told by Facilier that once the sun rises he’ll be very dead and very trapped, but hey, it’s what he wanted isn’t it? To be famous and unburdened by his friends? In the meantime, Tiana and Naveen lead the way straight to Mama Odie, who tells them that this time things are more complicated than getting a kiss. This time their curse is tied up in Ernesto’s jealousy and they’ll have to travel to the land of the dead if they want to save him and themselves before the sun rises.
Hector and Imelda take the lead when the four arrive on the other side and find themselves no longer normal animals, but alebrijes. There are several close calls and shadowy encounters, but they do manage to find a terrified and very glad to see them Ernesto who they narrowly drag back to the land of the living just before the sun rises.Ernesto and the Riveras don’t talk for a loooong long time, but everyone figures that he’s been through enough with nearly having his souls dragged to actual Cajun hell and doesn’t need to be punished further. Surprisingly it’s Naveen that is the most warm towards Ernesto. After all, he knows what it’s like to make idiot deals with Dr. Faciler.
(The man is after all very charismatic.)
Anonymous asked:
so quick question for the patf/coco au: when facilier was talking about hector's whole family being affected by the drink, are we talking about coco, too? and if so, what animal does she become?
Coco actually spends the evening with her Auntie Lottie (who is thrilled to have a new friend that also loves to dress up as a princess) while her parents have their adventure. She doesn't end up getting involved at all.
Ernesto’s original plan was to share a toast with Hector, but the bottle of cursed “tequila” accidentally gets cracked open and distributed by Naveen while the adults are all spending the evening together, (hence Coco being with a babysitter) resulting in Tiana, Naveen, Imelda and Hector all being transformed into animals by accident instead of only Hector.
The moment that the transformation takes place, Dr. Facilier appears, all crooning smiles and cackling triumph as he whisks a terrified Ernesto off to the Land of the Dead, just like he “promised.”
The four friends left behind attempt to gather their wits, Naveen and Tiana helping the others calm down while they all try to piece together what on earth Ernesto must have done to get the Shadowman drug up all the way from cajun Hell.
They also try to figure out how they’re going to get everyone back to normal before sunrise, including Ernesto. Dr. Facilier has hinted that this time their forms will be permanent by the time the sun rises, and that Ernesto will be quite permanently dead, meaning that Facilier will be able to leave Ernesto in his place on the other side and escape back to the living world to wreak havoc.
Meanwhile, Lottie and Coco are having a very serious discussion about whether scarlet or vermillion is a better choice of gown color for a hypothetical coronation outfit.
(Vermillion.)
backuppixiedust asked:
I’ve been wondering, in the Coco PatF au, does Tiana run into her dad in the Land of the Dead? And if so, does he already know about her first escapade as a frog?
In the Coco x PATF au the gang only ends up running around the Mexican area of the afterlife, meaning that Tiana doesn’t end up meeting her father during their adventure.
But as for if he knows about what’s been happening in her life or not, I’d imagine he keeps a pretty good eye on his baby girl.
Anonymous asked:
What if Miguel found old photos of Mama Coco in Charlotte’s princess dresses?
slusheeduck answered:
The princess dresses aren’t what phases Miguel. At this point, the whole world knows that the Maldonian Royal Family have taken winter holidays to Santa Cecilia for generations now to visit the Riveras. (Though when Elena was little, she flatly refused to believe that Tio Ravi and Tio Naveen were princes, because that’s just silly.)
What does throw Miguel for a loop is finding an old newspaper clipping with a picture of a very young Mama Coco and Tio Ravi with the caption “Prince Ravi of Maldonia and his fiancee, Socorro Rivera of Mexico.”
(Mama Coco’s too old to tell the whole story to Miguel, but Elena picks up where she trails off, assuring that they aren’t secretly royalty and that Mama Coco broke the engagement off when she was sixteen, much happier to live in quiet little Santa Cecilia rather than take on all the hustle and bustle of being a princess.)
[white-throated-packrat: also, I wonder how that happened. It seems so unlikely, unless some journalist is exaggerating things a lot...]
(Slusheeduck:)
Ha haaa, funny story, actually.
The betrothal actually took place on the Rivera’s first trip to Maldonia, after their little adventure in New Orleans. By this point, both couples were fast friends, and when Hector saw how little Ravi and Coco had become inseparable, he made a joke to Naveen about how nice it’d be if those two could get married and make them into one big family.
When Naveen agreed, he hadn’t expected the prince would actually mention the possibility to his parents, and he certainly didn’t expect the king and queen to take it seriously.
But it was fixable, Hector explained at the betrothal ceremony when Imelda’s boot was pressed very hard against his nose after an exclamation of ‘You got our FOUR-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER ENGAGED?!”, it was very fixable! Betrothals were made and broken all the time in royal circles! Why, Naveen had been through eight by the time he met Tiana! So, if they found reasonable cause for the betrothal to be broken, they’d be able to call it off, yes.
One hiccup.
King Maneesh and Queen Luzia had already met the Riveras. And they loved them, commoners or not. And, after seeing how Tiana had turned their selfish, layabout son into a considerate, responsible young man, hard-working was clearly the way to go with royal spouses, and if little Coco was anywhere near as hard-working and dedicated as her parents, then she’d make a fine princess one day.
And, as the Mexican Ambassador did his best to dodge from a swinging boot, he told her that Mexico was hesitant to break off any sort of relation with Maldonia. The nation was, of course, very rich, and with Mexico just starting to launch into a golden age, they could do with all the support they could get.
(Hector’s joking suggestion of Coco being terrible enough for the engagement to be broken earned him a look that was nearly as deadly as the boot.)
Imelda finally agreed to it, provided that Coco herself could call the engagement off if she chose to, and she wouldn’t be married a day before she turned eighteen. She wasn’t about to have her daughter trapped in a life she hadn’t chosen herself. Maldonia was a modern kingdom, so of course it took that provision into account.
As for Coco herself, she had a grand time being the prince’s betrothed. For most of her life, it just meant she got to tag along with Ravi at important dinners in pretty dresses. As they got older, it was nice to have a friend to sit with through long, boring dinners and dance with at balls. But then there were etiquette lessons and dance lessons and trips she had to make without her parents--and often barely seeing Auntie Tiana and Tio Naveen or even Ravi himself throughout the stay. It all left her feeling very homesick and miserable, and that’s when she called the wedding off.
(Despite what the papers said about her breaking the prince’s heart, Ravi was relieved too. Not only did it bother him to see Coco so miserable, but he honestly couldn’t see her as anything more than a sister after spending so much time together. Even if he loved her, he was a romantic like his brother and wanted to marry someone he was in love with. Coco completely understood, and was very happy to be in his wedding party a couple years later as he married a smart, lovely French duchess; he returned the favor when she married Julio a few years after that.)
Anonymous asked:
I need head canons of Tiana and Naveen hanging out with little Coco. I can think of Coco playing princess with Tiana.
slusheeduck answered:
*cracks knuckles* Brace yourself, nonny.
-Tiana doesn’t play princess with Coco, Charlotte does. Because Tia’s taking her sweet time having kids for Lottie to spoil, so thank god Tia’s friends from Mexico have the cutest little girl to dress up in all manner of princess clothes.
(Imelda has no patience for Lottie at first, but Hector thinks she’s a riot–plus she’s outrageously kind and a sweetheart to boot. Which, speaking of, Imelda does warm to her after seeing how earnestly she dotes on Coco, and on their next visit, she brings a beautiful pair of pink Louis heels for her. She’s glad Charlotte likes them, but she really could have done without the scream and rib-crushing hug.
-Naveen is also in on the Princess game, telling Coco that, since he’s a real prince, he knows exactly what it is princesses should do. And so obviously princesses dance in the hallways and sneak a couple beignets when Auntie Tiana’s not looking and slide down the banister (the last of which gives Hector a heart attack when he sees.)
-Tiana, meanwhile, brings Coco–still in her princess dress–in to the kitchen with her to help her cook. It’s hard work, she tells her as she has her stir the pot, but that’s a good thing. Real princesses are willing to work hard to get the things they want. (At this point, Naveen wanders in with his ukelele and sings a little something about digging a little deeper, which earns him a little swat and a laugh from Tiana.)
-If Naveen had his way, he would never put Coco down once the entirety of the visit, and each time the Riveras leave, there’s always a sudden uptick in conversations about how, you know, they really could start a family right now if Tiana’s up for it. (To which her response is always, “The restaurant’s our baby right now. You can wait a few more years, sugar.”)
-Naveen’s also always quick to offer to bring the Riveras to Maldonia for a visit. Beautiful beaches, polished marble towers, the friendliest people you’ve ever met are his usual selling points, but he adds in some tailor-made ones for his friends: the Maldonian traditional dress has some really wonderful shoe designs that may make for some excellent inspiration for Imelda (which gets her to consider), and it’d be really lovely if Hector could please, please bring his guitar because while Maldonian music is okay, it’s stuck in the past.
They hardly knew about jazz, so imagine how wonderful it’d be to bring banda and–what was that really loud fun style called again?–bolero rancheros over to people who’d never heard it (which sells Hector on it immediately), and his little brother Ravi’s just a bit older than Coco, and he’d absolutely dote on her the whole visit (which Tiana can attest to, and that’s when the thought of a trip to Maldonia get a little more serious.)
Anonymous asked:
It's been a little while since talking about the PatF AU, but do you think Tiana's mom Eudora would make little Coco a whole ton of dresses or is that just me? I also feel like Imelda would take the time to teach Eudora about Mexican fashions and (maybe) how to incorporate Mexican folklore into her work.
(Slusheeduck)
Eudora absolutely adores the little girl and even if Charlotte weren’t commissioning princess dresses left and right for her, she would have still been happy to make little Coco a few. (She does make her a few little day dresses, free of charge so long as Imelda promises to bring back a pair of her famous shoes next visit.)
I don’t know if Imelda would go so far as suggesting folklore to add to the dresses--while she values fine clothes and shoes, she doesn’t want them to be too overwhelmingly decorated--but she and Eudora definitely have a good time talking about current Mexican trends--Imelda pulls a few of her dresses and Hector’s shirts to show her, and Eudora has a field day crafting new patterns with them.
(Coco also adds fuel to the “I want some grandkids” fire. Eudora and Naveen team up to coo over Coco within earshot of Tiana and mention how wonderful it would be to have a little daughter/granddaughter of their own. Tiana steadfastly ignores them.)
(Slusheeduck)
Important PatF/Coco crossover headcanon:
Naveen would TOTALLY eat chapulines with Hector.
#Look #One of the things I love about Naveen is that before he was a suave womanizing stud #He was DEFINITELY that boy that caught frogs and ate mud #Despite his nannies telling him that princes didn't do that #HE WAS SO ON-BOARD WITH EATING BUGS AS A FROG
ynkaliko asked:
How did Ruy meet Iria? (Tiana and Naveen's kid with Hectòr's and Imelda's youngest child)
In the PATF x Coco crossover universe the Riveras are fast friends with the Maldonian royal family after the parent’s adventure together several years ago. Rodrigo and Iria are very close childhood friends, when they hit their teen years Ruy realizes that she’s basically perfect and begins to despair over being good enough to convince her to marry him.
In other universes (villain, Cecilia de Verde, ect.) Rodrigo meets a young foreign diplomat while he’s living in New York when they end up traveling in the same social circles.
Rodrigo is friends with everyone, Iria is no exception, but there’s just something especially wonderful about her that convinces him that he maybe couldn’t live without her. Iria thinks that Ruy’s ridiculous, but also that he is incredibly sweet and charming. Especially when he starts to say the most adorably poetic things about her in the Spanish he doesn’t think she understands, (she does, as a diplomat she speaks several languages fluently) and she just can’t help spending more and more time with the beautiful disaster that is absolutely determined to court her.
In all universes it’s when they sneak into an empty Carnegie hall in the middle of the night, and Iria gets up on the empty stage to play her ukelele and sing for him, that Ruy is absolutely convinced he desperately needs her and only her for the rest of his life.
In most universes he’s able to prove to her that he can change his reckless behavior to be his best self, and Iria begins to be convinced that maybe she really can trust him enough to marry him after all.
Anonymous asked:
I've gotta ask about Iria: What's her relationship like with Charlotte, Big Daddy LeBouff and Louis? And has Ruy met them? (Any AU is fine)
While Iria is growing up she spends nearly as much time in New Orleans as she does in Maldonia, which not only gives her a delightful accent that no one can ever quite pin down, but gives her plenty of bonding time with her family friends.
Big Daddy LeBouff and Auntie Lottie do their very best to spoil her rotten, and they’re actually distant relatives of hers! While Lottie doesn’t actually end up marrying Naveen’s baby brother, Naveen does keep an eye out for eligible royal bachelors in his social circles when he gets back to Europe.
Naveen ends up introducing Lottie to one of the mellow-tempered Solares dukes of Spain who she immediately attaches herself to, and they’re married within a year. One of her nephews down the line is Teban, and she’s one of the relatives who wants very badly for Iria and Teban to be married someday because they’re such good friends and COMPLETELY ADORABLE TOGETHER YOU CANT TELL ME OTHERWISE JUST LOOK AT THEM.
In the villain!au timeline Ruy never met them since his relationship with Iria was a quiet one, but he heard a lot about them. In all other timelines he’s ecstatic to finally get to meet them and loves them both.
#louis is a tricky middle ground since theres no talking animals in coco so the aesthetic clashes #in any crossover capacity louis is handwaved #but in a just PATF context Iria does meet him and is completely facinated by him #even if she cant talk to animals #and having a 'pet' crocodile you can read to and go on walks with is fantastic bragging rights
Anonymous asked:
Was Iria originally a character for a potential Princess and the Frog story or was she created mainly for the Coco Villain AU?
Good question, kinda both?
@slusheeduck and I both love The Princess and the Frog (Tiana being of course the best Disney Princess), at some point we began headcanoning a PATF x Coco crossover that Slush did a ton of headcanons for, and that I did some art and a big old oneshot for.
Slush has done some fanfic for PATF in her past and so has a good sense of headcanoned Maldonian (language of Maldonia) and background for Naveen’s family, so one day we were discussing the children that Tiana and Naveen would someday have and how they would match up in age to Hector and Imelda’s children.
The important part though is that several days before this conversation we’d hit the point with Ruy where we were trying to aggressively flesh out his backstory. We’d started talking about what kind of person he could have a relationship with that would help him fly straight, but were having trouble deciding.
We knew vaguely that it was a woman from Europe, someone that he lived in New York with, but beyond that we left it fuzzy since we knew there was a puzzle piece missing and didn’t want to force it.
Flash forward to talking about Tiana and Naveen’s kids, and we both freaked out at exactly the same time when we realized that the mysterious woman from Europe was from Maldonia, which was why we couldn’t settle on a country a few days earlier.
At that point we took our time fleshing out Iria, figuring out her personality and backstory and how it meshed with Ruy’s history. Ways they build each other up and how they sometimes tear each other down. In the PATF au (we hashed out thier story together in that au first) they are childhood friends who end up getting married after she tells him he has to straighten out when they’re in their early twenties if he wants to get hitched. He does, and it works out beautifully, and they’re absolutely perfect at helping each other through this mess we call life..
Meshing Iria into the villain au as Ruy’s lost love (since Ruy is too damaged in this au to immediately respond to her asking him to get better, instead taking her leaving as another abandonment and going off the deep end) gave them both amazing depth of character, and especially fleshed out Ruy wonderfully.
They’ve become my very favorite children and writing them both is incredibly therapeutic for me. To the point that I’m seriously considering writing a completely original novel featuring Ruy from Mexico, Iria from the Mediterranean, and Seba the jazz artist, three kids all making their way through love and life in 1950′s New York, as a romp of a historical fiction to give these kids the story they deserve.
So she very much belongs to a PATF world, but she was brought into the spotlight by Ruy. Which I think fits them pretty well.
Anonymous asked:
Headcanons for Iria and Rodrigo wedding? Elena and Victoria would be lovely flower girls
In universes where Iria and Ruy get married (most notably the PATF crossover au and the Cecilia de Verde au), there’s always a bit of drama surrounding the wedding. Because, well, that’s just Ruy’s style.
While Ruy greatly enjoys being the center of attention, his relationship with Iria is very private. It’s never a secret that Rodrigo Rivera spends a whole lot of time with the ambassador from Maldonia, but no one realizes that the party animal child prodigy conductor is fiercely loyal to her, since most people would assume he would be promiscuous, not painfully monogamous even before marriage.
Ruia’s relationship always hangs in the balance depending on whether or not Ruy can make important changes in his life and behavior to be more mature and a better man. Iria never marries him before she believes that he’s really made progress to be the man she knows he can be.
In most aus this results in them having a loving and passionate relationship, Ruy wanting to take it further, Iria giving him the ultimatum of having to change his bad habits, them taking a break while Ruy proves himself over about a year (still talking and writing each other, but not being together all the time, Iria wants to make sure he’s not just trying to change for her), and then getting back together when Iria can tell he really means it and them getting married immediately after she takes him back.
Like I said, drama.
Because they are eager to move quickly after getting back together, Ruy proposes with the ring he’s had in his pocket every day for over a year in the middle of Central Park, and they decide to get married in the courthouse that afternoon.
Which is what would have happened, had Iria’s bodygaurds not tattled on them to their parents. By the time they arrive at Iria’s apartment to pick up a few things there’s a very urgent, very expensive, and very upset phone call waiting for them straight from the Maldonian royal palace.
First of all, congratulations dear we’re very excited for you both. Second of all HOW DARE YOU TRY TO GET HITCHED WITHOUT YOUR PARENTS THERE TO WISH YOU WELL AND CELEBRATE WITH YOU YOU’RE MORE CONSIDERATE THAN THIS IRIA YOU KNOW BETTER.
The long story short is that a very sheepish Iria and Ruy reluctantly postpone their marriage for several weeks and are put on the next plane to Maldonia, where they’re joined a few days later by Ruy’s family for wedding planning.
The wedding is as grand and formal as any royal wedding should be, Iria is decked out in a beautiful dress made by Europe’s finest designers and crown jewels, Ruy is wrestled into a fancy suit by his brothers, and all the parents of the married couple are delighted to have their families officially linked by marriage.
Elena and Victoria do make very lovely flower girls, as well as the other nieces Iria and Ruy have between them. (Between Iria’s and Ruy’s brothers there’s a small gaggle of them.)
There’s a beautiful after party where everyone is stately and on their very best behavior, and then an after-after party for everyone that they actually care about after the foreign heads of state leave and it’s mostly a crowd of loud international New Yorkers getting drunk and singing.
By then though Ruy and Iria are completely exhausted and make their escape to the plane taking them to their activity-packed honeymoon in the Swiss Alps, where flocks of media rabidly search for them for days.
But they never find them in the alps, because they’ve secretly flown back to New York where they have a brand new furnished apartment suite together and they spend most of their time curled up together in their indoor hammock.