Comment on Jiang Cheng Starves to Death

  1. DUdE jc stans kinda piss me off bc mainly they are actively hostile towards others. Not to mention they can't differentiate canon jc from fanon jc. As someone who loves wwx, I accept he's DEEPLY DEEPLY FLAWED! He does go out to martyr himself but I believe it's partly bc of how he was raised. Madam Yu always reminding him what he owed to the jiang family. JC is another flawed character who has a sympathetic background. Who wouldn't feel a sense of jealousy and inadequacy in that environment? However, the difference is how we see jc and wwx react to tough circumstances. JC is always "you did XYZ to me" while WWX says "I did XYZ to them", taking responsibility.

    JC also easily turns his back on wwx. Sure he didn't help the wens like all of the rest of the cultivation world, but he was easily played by the jin sect. As jgy said in the last chapter, if jc had more faith in his brother, then these events might not have happened. JC did not honor his sister's sacrifice. His hatred for wwx was so deep that for 13 years, he went out to capture and torture demonic cultivators. TORTURED OUTSIDE OF WAR. That's beyond inhumane and we've seen wwx do some inhumane stuff.

     

    Even at the end, jc says the jiang sect gave wwx soooo much but wwx didn't give what he owed. *cues pikachu face and outrage when it turns out wwx actually did give his golden core bc it was what he owed*

    ofc jc has a right to be angry for being abandoned but here's the thing: JC's phrasing makes him unsympathetic to me. He bashes others while refusing to take responsibility for his own actions and words. If someone was constantly berating you from childhood, you would be negatively impacted. WORD FRICKIN HURT. And jc stans be like "oh what a cute tsundere how quirky"

    Jc is a deeply flawed character. And so is wwx. I am sympathetic to jc's character, but I do not respect how jc stans misrepresent the story. It takes away from the brilliance of the story.

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    1. For those of you who are still not convinced, 3988Akasha wrote a great (and pretty realistic in terms of relationship dynamics) fic "Did I Not Explain Why the Sunset Turns Red?"

      LINK: https://archiveofourown.org/works/27563575/chapters/67420063

      JC, NMJ, LXC all think that they know best. They are all willingly complacent in the wen innocent massacre because they want to protect their own first and go along with the jin sect since they are in power. Not only this, but they feel no guilt and believe themselves to be righteous. This kind of behavior has historical and modern precedent and is extremely realistic for humans to act. JC is not a misunderstood daisy who would've been fine without wwx's existence. (let's be clear mdm yu is toxic with or without wwx) JC does not have the political ability to refute the jins and even so, they play right into his insecurities and wield huge power over him. JC ultimately sided with the jins of wwx. And even if wwx didn't give up his core to jc and jc somehow survived, I believe it will be the same outcome.

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      1. This and this is what jc Stan always missed they always brushed off jc flaws and act like jc is an angel, it's funny that's the same ae not accepting their fav character as it is and make a new of instead 😅. Also does jc stand forgot how jc act toward precious a-yuan ? He saw him -he shoved him-he lead siege toward him and suddenly the fans forgot and act like jc can be best uncle for shizui too

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      2. True, there is this fic, "if Wwx didn't exist" . Like rewriting canon without Wwx, very good and realistic . Alittle heavy on the JC bashing but that is Still A realistic outcome. Like the butterfly effect used to the max. She backs her argument beautifully by quote from canon. Try it maybe?

        I agree with what you say. I also hate it when JC is all whining about being abandoned. Bro, who abandoned whom here? What was Wwx supposed to do? Ignor WQ and the huge ass LIFE DEBT he owns her and WN for shelring, feeding and healing him and JC in their time if need? Like seriously, JC keeps bitching about how much WWX owe the Jiang sect. What about what he own the wens then?

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        1. do you remember the tittle?? I'm interested

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          1. If Wei Wuxian did not exist. By anonymous

            https://archiveofourown.org/works/26628130/chapters/67401952?view_adult=true

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    2. I've always thought that the golden core was enough payment for the 'adoption' of the Jiangs. JC golden core could never match up with his 'brother' and even without a golden core wwx can still beat the shit out of him.

      I think that even before the sunshot campaign JC is already deeply insecure with wwx. He has repress his insecurities with the thought that wwx is his 'brother' and when everything went down the hill he no longers has the need to repress it. He could blame wwx all he want thinking that it was justifiable.

      And also he was HOMOPHOBIC.

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      1. If unotice, in canon JC never referred to WWX as a brother, only Jiang Yanli did. Plus, Wwx was never adopted, he was a ward at most. JC was already insecure towards WWX and others but was weirdly possessive at the same time, which was dialed up to eleven after the war.

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        1. Yeah..... The fandom keep calling them brother's, yet there was no brotherly bond. Just a fragile friendship between a sect heir and a disciple.

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          1. The brother thing isfanon, or at least one sided from WWX's side. It's more of a master and knight than anything.

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            1. That makes it more terrible, it's one-sided on wwx's part. Almost crossing the border of master and servant if wwx wasn't an impressive cultivator.

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    3. JC stans being actively hostile towards everyone really just mirrors JC’s behavior, it’s really meta and fitting lol

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