Wait - so Jean Paul convinced Bruce to let him mentor Tim and then let Tim believe Bruce asked HIM to take the role? And now he’s offering Tim empathy, support and medicine right when Bruce is making an ass of himself? I don’t like this at all.
And agreed to the above comments - I understand that Bruce and Dick were lucky enough to survive the arena without killing, but they don’t seem to get that that’s what it was. Luck. The Gamemakers made sure Tim was placed in “kill or be killed” situations, just as they did for Jason and Cass, because they dared not let the Waynes start a family trend of Victors with clean hands. Bruce doesn’t seem to get that, nor does he get that if Tim had succeeded at it, his whole family would be targets of the Capitol for repeatedly defying the point of the Games - killing to win. In fact he doesn’t seem to get that maybe so many of his kids are being Reaped to start with because he, and later Dick, turned the Capitol’s arena for punishing the Districts into a moral victory.
Thank you! Finally someone who sees what I see. Bruce has this whole moral compass, and I know that no matter the universe it will remain the same. Bruce understands that Tim is going through trauma, he just doesn't know how to deal with it (being honest, he doesn't even know how to deal with his own trauma).
In all honesty, I don’t blame Bruce for his moral code. In this universe, it would very much be a coping method for the horrors of the Games. The part I don’t understand is that he has THREE children who are Victors who have killed to survive, yet he seems to view Tim more harshly than he does Jason or Cass. Cass makes sense - she explicitly killed only once, under extreme duress, and suffered deep moral wounds from it. But Jason? Jason killed more than once (IIRC) for his Victory and didn’t show much remorse for it, yet Bruce doesn’t seem to have nearly as much sympathy for Tim as he has for Jason.
Another thing I don’t get is that there are six Victors - Bruce, Dick, Jason, Cass, Tim and Jean-Paul - yet only three of them have their own houses in the Victors Village. It’s almost like Tim’s a family outcast for doing what Jason did, and it’s leaving me uneasy tbh.
The thing here is that Tim arrived to the family after Jason; he doesn't know what happened during the time between Jason's games and his adoption. He's unaware of how Bruce received Jason because nobody talks about it. To be honest, Bruce puts up with a lot from Jason in the comics; he has given him several chances. So, I told myself, surely Bruce would do the same here. Now, think about it; in the comics, Tim was the perfect Robin. Did he do things behind Bruce's back? Of course, but he followed his rules all the way. That's why when Tim thought about killing his father's killer (not even killing, but he designed everything to lead to the villain's death if he chose to do things wrong), and when Bruce found out, he practically exiled Tim. I thought about that and told myself that in this universe, Tim is still practically the perfect son. He has never caused problems for Bruce and follows his rules. So seeing Tim break his trust (knowing what his no-killing rule means) must have broken Bruce's heart. So he doesn't know what to do; on one hand, Bruce wants to be there for his son, on the other hand, he is hurt by his actions. And, as it's Bruce, of course, he doesn't know how to express it.
Regarding the houses, each victor is supposed to have their own home, but Dick, Jason, and Cass decide to keep living with Bruce despite everything. However, their houses are still there.
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