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ADORA GRAYSKULL AND CATRA OF ‘THE HORDE’ FEUD LIVE AT THE VMAS!!
Everything to know about the popstars’ feud
By BubblePOP staff
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Adora Grayskull should have been more careful with how she treated her ex! Until yesterday, no one in the music industry knew CATRA and Adora had even met, but CATRA just revealed their relationship in explosive fashion live on stage at the VMAs.
Adora was attending the VMAs with two nominations under her belt for Best Duet and Song of the Summer, but no one knew it was battle of the exes. CATRA was up for both Song of the Summer (alongside her band, The Horde) and Best New Artist (as a soloist). Both artists lost their nominations, but CATRA made sure everyone would be talking about her performance one way or another. CATRA was performing the Song of the Summer-nominated “good 4 u” and made it clear exactly who the chart-topper of abandonment was really about.
When the Horde took the stage, cameras in the audience caught Adora’s jaw dropping, apparently surprised to see her ex in the flesh. After performing the first two verses and choruses, CATRA left the stage during her band’s guitar solo and continued her performance while making her way through the crowd, interacting with attendees down the aisle until she reached the final chorus, when she stopped next to Adora and sang the bridge in her face:
Well, good for you
You look happy and healthy, not me
If you ever cared to ask
Good for you
You're doing great out there without me, baby
Like a damn sociopath
Ouch! The VMAs haven't commented on if the stunt was planned, but it has been good for their viewership numbers. On YouTube, the performance has three times the views of the second-most-popular clip from the night despite being by an up-and-comer and a niche band. A clip of CATRA grinning as she skipped away from a gaping Adora has already garnered over 300,000 views on Twitter, and a gif of her throwing her head back to cackle after she sang the final note has become a trending gif on Tenor, with many variations floating around with different captions, some at Adora’s expense and some becoming incredibly niche. We found one that just says “when Josh and Marie call it quits again.” We hope you find a stable relationship, Josh and Marie, because it doesn’t seem like Adora is going to any time soon.
Adora’s dating life has always been publicly unknown despite her love songs. No credible reports of her with any partner have ever surfaced — we’ve tried! — and there isn’t a single photo of her holding hands with someone outside of her frequent collaborator Glimmer Lunet and her fiance, leaving throuple rumors the most substantiated option, but the way Adora burst out laughing and then reminded fans she was a lesbian when they were brought up has taken the wind out of those sails. With Adora’s reaction too stunned for CATRA’s accusations to be anything but true, fans finally have a starting point to investigate her muse.
CATRA and Adora’s teams have gone entirely silent since the performance last night, but this is what BubblePOP has been able to turn up on connections between the two stars:
- Catra and Adora both grew up in the same small town, Eternia, about ten hours away from L.A.
- They attended Eternia General High together and their high school year book quotes from 11th grade seem to reference each other (Catra: “Promise?”. Adora: “Promise.”)
- Adora’s solo career started a year before Catra went public with her band. She gained steady numbers and blew up with her second album, achieving her first Grammy shortly before Catra debuted solo
- Catra’s debut song under CATRA, “the sex was good!”, centers on a breakup with a girl who has made it to the big leagues
With no public overlap in their friend circles, it’s hard to say what their relationship has been like the last few years or why things boiled over at the VMAs, but they likely made contact in high school and have kept up since Adora moved to L.A., making it easier for them to keep their relationship off camera. The question now is: how will Adora respond? Follow updates with our #CatraDora tag.
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CATRA Performs "good 4 u" Feat. The Horde | Live At The Video Music Awards
@cardamommy 1 week ago
The way I thought she was just having fun performing with all those little smiles and glances to the audience in between lyrics and she was FUCKING PLOTTING

@pumpkakitty 1 week ago
Man those audience members she stopped by before reaching Adora must be SO glad they danced along now because the implications would be insane if they weren’t smiling along and clearly just vibing
@brightsider-cherrybonfire 1 week ago
That one shot at the beginning of Adora’s jaw dropping when she stepped on stage… #Iremember the 2 minutes 19 seconds where I believed she was just excited for the performance
@d1am0nddancefloor 1 week ago
How is this somehow WORSE than everyone described it as? She’s straight up yelling in Adora’s face

@strikeoutgirlkisser 1 week ago
I literally don’t care what side of this you’re on, this is the best live performance I’ve ever seen. The raw anger in her voice while still hitting all the notes, her energy bouncing around the stage and into the audience, the excitement she clearly has, she’s so alive it feels like you were right there
@overdoromance 1 week ago
The little skip she does away from Adora so she can reach the stage in time for the final lines… maybe I don’t need Lexapro maybe I just need an evil ex to destroy
@yjennyteller 1 week ago
> Make the VMAs let her perform the entire back half of the song in the audience so the cameraman has to run backwards down the aisles to keep up with her
> Find out where Adora is seated and put it on the route so she can rub her success in her ex’s face
> Create the most viral moment of the year
> Purr into the mic at the end of the song
> Get vilified on the internet
I have no choice but to stan I think. I didn’t even know who sang good 4 u yesterday
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CherryBonfire
@brightsidercherrybonfire
Seriously I need to hear from Adora. Is she okay??
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Replay Diamond now1! @d1am0nddancefloor · 10 hours ago
Replying to @brightsidercherrybonfire
That was the most disrespectful thing I’ve ever seen happen at an awards show, I don’t blame her for not wanting to make things any more public
Avery @shegotherwayaway · 10 hours ago
Replying to @brightsidercherrybonfire
I can’t believe the VMAs allowed that performance. We should be demanding answers from them, not her
studying stantwt like a bug @getmeoutttahere · 10 hours ago
Replying to @brightsidercherrybonfire
girl, her ex called her shitty. this is breaking news to no one who has ever been through a relationship, she’ll be fine
Barricade Hopper @itgetsbright · 10 hours ago
Replying to @getmeoutttahere
Wow what a self report.
CherryBonfire @brightsidercherrybonfire · 10 hours ago
Replying to @getmeoutttahere
Adora is SO private with her love life, even if the song was positive this probably would have felt violating!!
Replay Diamond now1! @d1am0nddancefloor · 10 hours ago
Replying to @getmeoutttahere
The way Catra got up in her face is basically assault
studying stantwt like a bug @getmeoutttahere · 10 hours ago
Replying to @d1am0nddancefloor
i’m sorry what 💀 touch grass
Pumpkakitty
@pumpkakitty
The only thing I don’t like about the performance is now everyone is talking about that blonde chick instead of how hot CATRA looked when she was full maniacal mode 🙄
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free time kitty cat @linelier · 9 hours ago
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No fr we haven’t seen her manic mode during a performance since the Beverly show, girly was ALIVE. I’m going to print this performance out frame-by-frame and paper it on my walls
strikeoutgirlkisser @strikeoutgirlkisser · 9 hours ago
Replying to @pumpkakitty
Her little giggle after the first chorus… we had no idea what she was planning. I just thought she was having fun being on such a big stage
1 more stream @15evilteachers · 9 hours ago
Replying to @pumpkakitty
i’m going to spend the entire rest of my life looking at the final shot of her leaning back into the crowd wishing i was that brunette with her hand on her shoulder
idk either @greenskiiies · 9 hours ago
Replying to @15evilteachers
You couldn’t be trusted not to lick it
1 more stream @15evilteachers · 9 hours ago
Replying to @greenskiiies
and what of it, did you see the way her bicep flexed when she took the guitar off for the crowd run?
free time kitty cat @linelier · 9 hours ago
Replying to @15evilteachers
No better than a man smh
1 more stream @15evilteachers · 9 hours ago
Replying to @linelier
i am a man
free time kitty cat @linelier · 9 hours ago
Replying to @15evilteachers
EW BLOCK HIM ‼️‼️
idk either @greenskiiies · 9 hours ago
Replying to @15evilteachers
GANG ELIMINATE THE INTRUDER
solarbeam!!
@sunsonar
Ok to newbies: Catra has ONE significant ex that we know of. Almost her entire debut album was written about her. These breakup songs tell you a lot about Adora and most of it isn’t good. I’ve made a playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1eUxI7U1Ml90ZZB6vhJLgz
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solarbeam!! @sunsonar · 8 hours ago
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This playlist is just her breakup songs from her debut album that seem to be about one ex, but the Horde put out a few as well that I think could be coming from Catra and about Adora. The Horde is a collaborative project tho so it’s a lot harder to say what lyrics are written by her
solarbeam!! @sunsonar · 7 hours ago
Replying to @sunsonar
Catra has said before that some of her “love songs” are not love songs at all and that’s just the framing she’s using to address people in her life who treated her poorly, so this playlist only includes songs where the ex shares characteristics
solarbeam!! @sunsonar · 7 hours ago
Replying to @sunsonar
I’ll be honest it’s hard for me to imagine Adora as the villain Wildcats have come to imagine Catra’s ex as but the fact we had no idea Adora dated anyone when Catra made it clear she was replaced with multiple girls tells us we don’t really know Adora
solarbeam!! @sunsonar · 7 hours ago
Replying to @sunsonar
I’m going to do a deep dive on Adora’s discography now and see what I can find about her side of things but I’ll be honest: she’d never write a song like No Mercy so it’s harder. Most of the emotional stuff I’ve heard from her is just yearning
solarbeam!! @sunsonar · 7 hours ago
Replying to @sunsonar
The Horde’s music is even darker than Catra’s since it’s alt emo rather than pop rock, but like I said we can’t tell what’s from Catra since she’s a cowriter. She did that project, stood out, got her solo deal and has more control over her sound now so I’m focusing there
solarbeam!! @sunsonar · 2 hours ago
Replying to @sunsonar
Okay I did end up adding a few Horde songs (cough No Mercy cough) we know are about the same ex from motifs or interviews. The stuff in those should be taken more loosely tho because we don’t know if some of the lyrics are actually about Rogelio’s mentor, Kyle’s dad, etc
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How CATRA Got on the VMAs Stage
Pop Culture | Music | Deep Dives
by Clawdeen Mari for CL Insite
Adora Grayskull doesn’t need much introduction. She started gaining traction before she even had an album out due to a tight single rollout that secured her an opening slot on the Flowers For You tour. Another opening gig after release at Glimmer Lunet's larger Glitz & Glamour tour put her first album on the map, and from there she was headlining her own shows. No one is asking who she is, they’re asking why she hasn’t dropped her third album yet, because her yearly schedule just hit and we don’t have a name or lead single. She doesn’t need a publicity stunt when fans are already begging her for more music. Everyone assumes such a blatant spectacle on TV is planned, and so instead suspicion turns towards CATRA as the beneficiary, but when you know her history, that too seems misplaced. CATRA is a new face to pop culture, but Catra isn’t to the industry. Her debut album came out five months ago with the lead single almost a year old, but faces that fresh don’t make it to the VMAs. A long story led to the display that we saw last night.
Catra started in the music industry in a much humbler way than Adora: she sent a hundred emails, and she sold one song. Then she sold two. After a half-dozen songs got picked up by artists spanning from Sony to Universal Music Group, she moved to L.A. She didn’t see much success at first. She only sold songs occasionally like she had from back home in Eternia, where the cost of living was half as much per year, but soon she started to appear at local shows with a band she had been putting together with an old friend.
The Horde isn’t a meteoric success story. None of the original five members had any connections in the industry. Catra managed to pick up a tenacious agent for her songs, but she was struggling even to sell her lyrics. Signing a band takes more. Catra has been quite blatant about how she got them noticed: She sold out. She drove hard into ghostwriting pop music until she endeared herself to someone willing to pass The Horde’s demo to an agent, who was in the right mood to open the sound file, and was willing to take a risk on it after hearing the anguish in the song.
The Horde’s debut album, White Out, did well for a new band in the emo rock space a few years after the genre’s boom passed. Their time spent building a fanbase before they got signed paid off and they managed to open for a mid-size tour to promote their debut album. They knew they could always lose momentum without heavy promotion from their label, so they played it smart and put together an EP to keep their fans engaged as they worked on their second studio album. That’s when lightning struck for Catra: one of the old agents who bought her pop demos came back, but they didn’t just want lyrics this time.
“They said my demo version came out better than any other artists' that they tried selling it to. I told them I wanted to make music with more punch behind it and they challenged me to bring that depth to pop. I was surprised by how much I liked the challenge instead of leaning into genre conventions like I learned to do when ghostwriting.”
-CATRA for Out Magazine
Some fans considered her a sellout when she debuted eponymously, but she made it clear she did that once to get The Horde signed and she didn’t do it with her solo career: instead, she got full control, and not just of her music. The Horde operates in a genre famous for caring about those sellout accusations CATRA went through, so they kept their sound and subject matter tight. For CATRA, it kept her locked in the bad headspace she wrote the first album in. She couldn't emotionally recover when she was reliving it every time she was on a stage. When given her own career, CATRA thrived on the blank slate of getting full control as a soloist.
Everyone in the industry already knew Catra could write a pop hit, she’d done it before. What she needed to prove was that she could write a CATRA hit, and she did. “good 4 u” was the second song released off of her debut album, Radio Confessional, and it performed well pre-release, but after the album came out, those lucky stars lined up again and it skyrocketed in the charts, reaching the Billboard Hot 100.
That’s when the VMAs reached out about a performance. They already knew she would end up nominated somewhere on the stage, and though she had only done a few live performances as a soloist, she was known to be a legendary performer dating back to her days in The Horde. The VMA performance shows exactly why: she knows how to work with a minimal staging budget because all eyes focus on her. She has a captivating stage presence and a talent for pouring emotion into her voice without effecting her pitch at all. CATRA once said she is at her best when she’s pissed and holding a mic — the whole country has seen why, now.
While the exact process behind how a performance for the VMAs is put together is a secret, the performances are practiced, including CATRA’s. There has been no official word from the VMAs about the original plans for the night, but inside sources confirmed by CL Insite shared how these practice performances went, and it has big implications for the night of the show.
CATRA has yet to headline a tour and her run through the audience was planned as a way to highlight her ability to engage a crowd. She had a route and wide marks where she was supposed to stop to sing to someone, but they couldn’t know which seats would be having the best time, so she practiced stopping at various points to make sure she could still keep time and reach the stage for the final lines without losing the camera. This was the biggest focus of the practice that our sources witnessed, and you can see this in the final performance. CATRA found people dancing in their seats that immediately matched her energy when she approached them.
It’s possible only a select few executives knew the direction CATRA was going to take the final performance and they planned it in secret with CATRA’s team for the views. In Hollywood, any conspiracy is possible, but if the evidence points towards CATRA approaching Adora on her own, does that mean it still has to be a publicity stunt?
CATRA’s reputation as a performer didn’t come from nowhere. Her fans refer to some of her shows as “Manic Mode” days — days when CATRA performs like she’s singing to ghosts and keeps a reserve in the tour budget specifically for property damage when she kicks something over at the height of a song and keeps performing even as it breaks. If the narrative CATRA has presented in her music is true — if she even feels like it could be — what would you do if you saw the love of your life, who left you when you were at your mental lowest to sell out for fame, competing for the same artistic honor as you on the biggest night of your career thus far, while you’re two minutes and twenty-four seconds into reliving the memory of that betrayal as you become lightheaded from releasing all your oxygen to hit the high notes?
Would you feel manic?
While Adora’s team is presumed to be preparing a statement, CATRA is instead preparing for her first tour. Adora has spent the last three years telling the public about the one who got away from her the way that she wanted to. CATRA hasn’t taken control of the narrative, but she has taken it from Adora and given it to the public. It’s up to them now to decide whose breakup songs are the real version of events.
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Adora Grayskull
@adoragrayskull
We never dated
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strikeoutgirlkisser @strikeoutgirlkisser · 1 hour ago
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ADORA???
idk either @greenskiiies · 1 hour ago
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Sorry that clears NOTHING up
free time kitty cat @linelier · 1 hour ago
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Queen I need you to say more I fear
Suffering Grad @saphgraduate · 1 hour ago
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I knew she was just using you!!!! And her fans are being so cruel to you when you did nothing it’s disgusting!! I’m blocking everyone who’s indulging in these lies











