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  1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Sun 08 Sep 2024 06:46PM UTC

    Post canon fics aren´t usualy my thing, but I liked your other Dunmeshi fics so I chose to give it a try. Canon divergence is my usual fix.

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    1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Sun 08 Sep 2024 07:55PM UTC

      Ah got it, then if you're enjoying it despite it being your usual dish great, but no pressure on my end!

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      1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Sun 08 Sep 2024 09:47PM UTC

        I read the first five chapters and I like it so far. Will probably vontinue reading it tomorow.

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        1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Mon 09 Sep 2024 03:48AM UTC

          Good to hear, go at whatever pace you feel like.

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          1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Fri 04 Oct 2024 07:20PM UTC

            So now that I catched up, I decided to elaborate a bit on my opinions.

            I think I like Les, for the same reason I like AUs. In both you get to see new dynamics and stories, with familiar characters.

            I think I usually prefer AUs, mostly because a lot of times the conflict in post-canon fics ends up feeling contrieved for me (Don't worry, Les doesn't have that problem).

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            1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Sun 06 Oct 2024 05:04AM UTC

              I can see your points. A lot of post-canon fics end up feeling like they are rethreading old ground, or like they are digging up a story from it's well-earned gravesite (not even just fics, just media in general nowadays).

              Dungeon Meshi's ending coming with the characters being inserted into an entirely new paradigm of their lives helped a lot in making a sequel that could tackle different themes, obstacles and have different interpersonal dynamics that are all, at least in part, supported by the canon epilogue showing us the characters trying to adapt to this new stage of their lives. While I don't want Kui to make a sequel, so that this work can end on the high note that most stories don't get to end on, it does let us have fun with what came after more easily.

              Of course that doesn't make it EASY to write a sequel without it just feeling "more of the same", so I'm still glad that even people like you that don't actively seek out this type of stories are liking it!

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              1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Sun 06 Oct 2024 09:54PM UTC

                It's a balance I think. You have to avoid retreading old ground, but also have to make it fit with the canon's "vibe".

                Now, that I am writting one myself, I think AUs have some similar issues, but they have the benefit of not having to invent a new conflict, just a different resolution to the canon one.

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                1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Mon 07 Oct 2024 02:50AM UTC

                  Yeah, I agree and I think it's something that you've handled better as time went on. One of your first chapters did feel like just an expansion on the source material with a different twist, but you found your footing soon after.

                  I think this is a problem with franchises and even more so with fanfiction in general. We do want more, yes, but we want a "more" that is meaningful, that has something to say, not more for the sake of having more on the table.

                  If an author has a message, it hink they can make it work, regardless of the format.

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                  1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Mon 21 Oct 2024 06:07AM UTC

                    In a way that was kinda the thing I was going for. At the start I used canon as a crutch to get better at characterization (seeing how a different character reacts to the canonical situation).

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                    1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Mon 21 Oct 2024 04:40PM UTC

                      No shame in knowing your limits and using a crutch to get your foot in the door. You got over the crutch rather quickly anyway!

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                      1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Mon 21 Oct 2024 04:49PM UTC

                        And currently I stated walkimg into a fully uncharted territory to torture the mataphor a bit. Can't wait to see how it turns out.

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                        1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Mon 21 Oct 2024 04:55PM UTC

                          Nothing quite as "fun" as to jump into the abyss with only a parachute.

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                          1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Mon 21 Oct 2024 09:23PM UTC

                            Well I wrote the first four sentences already. Wanted to do more, but I have to do other things as well.

                            Still trying to figure out how to adjust Marcille's nightmare, while having it express her canonical fear.

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                            1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Tue 29 Oct 2024 02:07AM UTC

                              Well, much like you, I had to do other things for this past week, is why I went dead silent. Without sayin too much, I was working on my contribution to a Laimar Zine and finished it today (2 hours before the deadline, classic me). I see you've updated aswell, I'll read it tomorrow.

                              And for Marcille's nightmare, maybe it's less esoteric and more on the nose, given how she may have actually grappled with death a lot more in the canaries?

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                              1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Tue 29 Oct 2024 06:24AM UTC

                                Oh, cool!

                                I kinda went the opposite direction. There's layers to it now.

                                Edit: I hope you will like it.

                                Edit 2: Where I will be able to find the zine? I am knida curious about it now.

                                Last Edited Fri 01 Nov 2024 04:20PM UTC

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                                1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Wed 06 Nov 2024 04:43PM UTC

                                  The zine isn't out yet, but once it's out, everyone should be able to solo publish their contribution to it, since it's a free download thing. I already have my contribution on this site's draft feature, only waiting for it to be out and the link to post on the author's note. So the link will be in that one shot when I upload it (and others will have it too I'm sure), or if you'd rather, I'll give you it once it's out.

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                                  1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Wed 06 Nov 2024 05:02PM UTC

                                    Thanks, I will check out the oneshot, once it's out.

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                                    1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Sun 10 Nov 2024 04:33AM UTC

                                      Well, it's out now. But guess what (this wasn't planned), so is Les Chapter 20!

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                                      1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Sun 10 Nov 2024 10:15AM UTC

                                        Cool. I read both. Liked both as well.

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                                        1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Sun 17 Nov 2024 03:56AM UTC

                                          With that one done, I only have one more project ongoing before I can dedicate myself fully to finish Les. I hate that my weekly pacing burned me out moments **after** agreeing to these projects but oh well, what's done is done.

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                                          1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Sun 17 Nov 2024 07:14AM UTC

                                            I don't really have a fixed update schedule, but I usually update my fic roughtly once a week. But this week I had too much irl stuff, so probably no new chapter until next week. Good luck with that other project.

                                            Last Edited Sun 17 Nov 2024 04:13PM UTC

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                                            1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Mon 25 Nov 2024 02:53AM UTC

                                              I only tried to do it to match up with the ongoing anime, but I kinda burned out after 4 months of what which I guess shouldn't be too surprising. Your update pacing has been going very well though, I'm hoping I can get back to a similar one now that I'm mostly done with this callendar year's classes (though for the next 2-3 weeks that's going to finishing up the other thing).

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                                              1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Mon 25 Nov 2024 01:44PM UTC

                                                There might be a bit of a pacing slump sooner or later as the next few chapters are going to be "filler chapter" that mainly serve to manouver the characters into the position they will need to be in for the ending as well as having to start preparing for exams around Christmass.

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                                                1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Fri 06 Dec 2024 12:24PM UTC

                                                  You have exams around CHRISTMAS?! Wow. That's... weird for me. Christmas is the time I am the most free. I wanna finish Les before the end of January because that's when my exams begin and I want to have it all done and dusted for everyone's sakes, mine included.

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                                                  1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Fri 06 Dec 2024 12:46PM UTC

                                                    About two weeks after Christmas, so I need to start preparing.

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                                                    1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Fri 06 Dec 2024 12:51PM UTC

                                                      Mine start about a month after, so there's a bit of breathing time. The week of Christmas my family just turns off any work responsabilites to try and reset our brains.

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                                                      1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Fri 06 Dec 2024 04:19PM UTC

                                                        The good news is that there are just 2 chapters of seasonings left and the next part is gonna have 5, but some might turn out shorter, then my current chapters. Afterwards Jailbird would be finished.

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                                                        1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Sat 07 Dec 2024 01:12AM UTC

                                                          I assume the last bit is gonna be crazy, I'll be sure to catch up before seasonings ends. Fingers crossed for thistle to not get hollowed out... again.

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                                                          1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Sat 07 Dec 2024 09:58AM UTC

                                                            The last 2-3 chapters of "Dungeonside picnic" will be an epilogue of sorts, but don't worry there will be enough crazy stuff before that. Fingers crossed indeed...

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                                                            1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Sun 08 Dec 2024 12:05AM UTC

                                                              Good, I don't hate stories without epilogues, but when it cuts to black after the climax it always feels a bit empty for me. Is why I enjoyed that we both got the Falingon Feast at the end of DM, and the extra comics. I wann know where the characters plan to/end up in.

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                                                              1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Sun 08 Dec 2024 10:32AM UTC

                                                                Yeah I want to write where the characters end up since in this case, they are very much the heart of the story. The final fic migh actually be only 4 chapters, with 2 of epilogue, but I am yet to decide whetever or not to compact the last two chapters into 1.

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                                                                1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Sun 08 Dec 2024 09:54PM UTC

                                                                  I think that what matters in that epilogue is more the amount of words/content than if it's two chapters or one, so I wouldn't worry too much about it.

                                                                  And yeah, I am tired of hearing that "it's about the journey, not the destination". No, it's about both of them! That feels like an excuse for having a kinda crappy destination!

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                                                                  1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Sun 08 Dec 2024 11:10PM UTC

                                                                    I wouldn't call it worrying. I am just unsure yet.

                                                                    It's about the friends we made along the way and the monsters we ate (and also the ending).

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                                                                    1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Mon 09 Dec 2024 03:05AM UTC

                                                                      The friends we made along the way, the monsters we ate, the friends we maybe turn into more than friends later... and how we can keep eating monsters after the ending. That's what makes exploring the post game of DM worthwhile, while still having a good ending.

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                                                                      1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Mon 09 Dec 2024 08:31AM UTC

                                                                        Don't forget about the friends we made into monsters and then eaten along the way.

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                                                                        1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Mon 09 Dec 2024 09:40PM UTC

                                                                          I sure hope Falin won't be spreading THAT story on her travels...

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                                                                          1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Mon 09 Dec 2024 09:51PM UTC

                                                                            Nah, that's more of story Laios would tell...

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                                                                            1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Mon 09 Dec 2024 10:15PM UTC

                                                                              Not the best ice breaker when talking with the dwarf king who, in dwarf fashion, is entirely oblivious to the happenings on the world so takes it a 100% face value.

                                                                              Laios gets the title of "of the Loose Toungue" in Melini proper.

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                                                                              1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Mon 09 Dec 2024 10:20PM UTC

                                                                                Was that before or after your court mage almost ended the world?

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                                                                                1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Mon 09 Dec 2024 10:26PM UTC

                                                                                  I wonder if at some point "normal" people just start wondering if Laios is fucking with them. Like, surely, his adventures cannot be **this** outrageous, right???? He cannot be THIS socially inept, he's a king!

                                                                                  He must be playing some 5D chess with us.

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                                                                                  1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Mon 09 Dec 2024 10:30PM UTC

                                                                                    Laios isn't playing 5D chess, he is eating the pieces whenever his opponent looks away.

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                                                                                    1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Tue 10 Dec 2024 05:19PM UTC

                                                                                      He wrote in his Fursona diary that he had the capability to eat the other player's pieces during his turn and that's how he beat Magnus Lionsen at chess.

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                                                                                      1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Tue 10 Dec 2024 05:47PM UTC

                                                                                        He convinced Magnus Lionsen to play by his modified rules. Magnus Lionsen failed to read that the rules allow him to eat pieces and was very surprised as a a result.

                                                                                        P.s Magnus Lionsen sounds like a fantasy name written by someone who's trying too hard.

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                                                                                        1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Fri 13 Dec 2024 03:26AM UTC

                                                                                          Magnus Lionsen is a fantasy name for a guy who's entire design is just lion heads, lion pelts and is the general/king of the enemy army that he calls his pride.

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                                                                                          1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Fri 13 Dec 2024 09:54AM UTC

                                                                                            I know fantasy settings that would do something like that.

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                                                                                            1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Mon 16 Dec 2024 02:01PM UTC

                                                                                              If I was hurried by a deadline and didn't have time to review everything in my brain 100x over, I may take those shortcuts. Writting the bang fic at least gave me a sense of understanding for how some parts of some stories end up feeling in your face or half-baked.

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                                                                                              1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Mon 16 Dec 2024 02:21PM UTC

                                                                                                It isn't even a shortcut, the setting I was talking about is just over-the-top and somewhat on the nose.

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                                                                                                1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Thu 26 Dec 2024 05:01AM UTC

                                                                                                  Semi-parodic settings like Warhammer make it hard to guess what's a shortcut, what's a joke, and what's something that we should take semi-seriously. Parrt of the charm, unless I'm missing the kind of setitng you're talking about.

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                                                                                                  1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Thu 26 Dec 2024 11:04AM UTC

                                                                                                    That's what I was talking about.

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                                                                                                    1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Tue 14 Oct 2025 12:40AM UTC

                                                                                                      Which, to be fair, I'd think Dungeon Meshi sorta fits into this semi-parodic setting mold. Maybe. Like the more the story developed the more it felt like an actual fantasy setting. But there's this undercurrent of silliness to it. I'm not sure where the line is really.

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                                                                                                      1. Nobody3702 on Chapter 1 Tue 14 Oct 2025 05:44AM UTC

                                                                                                        Good point. I'm not sure myself.

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                                                                                                        1. TheUnknowingHerald on Chapter 1 Fri 17 Oct 2025 12:26AM UTC

                                                                                                          My conclusion is more that the story straddles the line and hops to one side or the other depending on the scene. Which may be the hardest way to handle it competently, but I gues that's why we're here

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