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When you grow up, all you think about is your future. How passion turns to creation and the success that'll come with it. Now, Mikey is starting to wonder if his dreams were well, just dreams.
"Such beautiful art! But… this won’t work. You see, rendering your art is all the rage these days-"
"It was… okay. But can I get a bit more of that 'razzmatazz' for your next dance?”
"You call yourself a chef? The steak is undercooked!"
Those were all recent things he’s heard. The last one was stupid! He was told rare. He gave rare, maybe he should know what he’s asking for! Mikey gave an aggravated huff, settling his face on his legs. The sun was setting and here he was, sitting at the steps of another rejected job application.
He stared at the people passing by, feeling frustrated. His art didn't appeal to the masses, his dancing was 'okay' at best and now, apparently, his cooking also sucked. That last one he felt wasn’t true, and he felt tempted to spin around to tell that to his no longer favorite chef.
He glowered at the closed door, feeling his insides twist at just how unfair it was. He was asked to show what he could do and then when he does exactly that he’s kicked to the curb. And okay maybe he gave the chef some attitude after one too many jabs at his cooking, but he still did what he was asked to do!
He felt anger swelling up, stopped, and took a breath. In for three, hold, out for three. Yelling at them wouldn’t help anything. Anger, right now, wouldn’t help him. He manages to calm down and walk away from the building when his phone starts to ring.
Glancing at the caller ID, he grimaced and collected himself, before picking up. "Chello~?" he answered in false cheer. "Orange! There you are, how did it go? Are you going to be working with Meatsweats?" Splinter interrogated in rapid succession. Mikey groaned, rubbing his brow, they've been over this what feels like a million times at this point. "I told you, his name is Rupert Swaggert."
Rupert Swaggert was one of the victims of the mutant epidemic years ago. Afterwards, when Splinter saw him on TV his only comment was 'he looks like the meat sweats', when the chef made some comment involving the insult. Now, whenever he comes up in conversation, Splinter would only refer to him as Meatsweats. Thinking about it, Mikey's kinda glad he's not working with Swaggert now. Introducing his father to his boss would be a nightmare.
"Rupert is a horrible name, I'm sticking with Meatsweats," Splinter grumbled from the other side of the phone. Mikey decided to let it go for now (the chef wasn't on his good side at the moment). One day, he’ll eventually get Splinter to refer to him by his name, or at least anything else that wasn’t about his mutation. That was just offensive, Splinter of all people knew that!
"Now answer my questions! Will you be working with him?" Splinter demanded. Mikey winced, he didn’t exactly want to talk about how this is his sixth failed interview. It kind of puts a damper on your mood. "Well... No, uh, I guess he doesn't like his steak rare," he laughed, swallowing the lump in his throat.
The conversation fell while he waited for a car before crossing the street. It took until he got to the bus stop when he heard crashing on the other side of the phone. This is why I’m riding the bus, Mikey thought to himself.
"He what!?" his father finally exclaimed. He looked up and down the street for the bus, his brow furrowing as the sound of more clanging and bangs filtered through the phone. "Dad, what are you doing?" he questioned, exasperated. He swears, his father’s reaction gets worse and worse with every time he gets turned down. Although, his father is more… passionate this time around.
"Should've known a man called Meatsweats would have no taste," Splinter hissed. “Son, you have the best food known to man! No! Known to every creature on earth!” Mikey’s certain he just heard a distant ‘yeah!’ that sounded suspiciously like April. “I’ll show him what rare is when I-”
"I’m riding the bus, so don’t worry about picking me up,” he cut him off. “Is April with you?” He’s more than certain she’s there now, hearing her saying something about her bat, and it sounded like Splinter was rummaging through drawers.
"What-? Oh, yes, April's here. She's been uh... Helping me with a foot massage,” Splinter responded, distractedly. There was a brief pause in the loud noises that allowed for April's exclamations of disgust. He shuddered thinking about it, he didn't blame her. Gross.
“Wait, so we’re not picking you up?” his Dad asked, sounding confused. “Nope! I need some inspiration for drawing when I get home,” Mikey told him. It was only half a lie. Asides from trying to prevent his family from burning down a restaurant, he also just needed space.
It was quiet for a moment, Mikey could see the bus down the street. “Alright, Orange. Get home safe, no talking to strangers, we’ll wait for you at home,” Splinter relented as the bus rolled into the bus stop in front of him. "I will, Dad. I love you! Oh, and you better not have done anything to my kitchen!" He heard his father start to sputter at his last comment as he hung up the phone.
He steps onto the bus and decides to sit in the back corner. He lets out a cheerless sigh as the bus drives past Swaggart's Restaurant.
When Mikey got home, nothing was broken and everything was clean... from what he could see, anyway. He could hear rustling and muted bickering from the kitchen.
He threw his jacket onto the couch, as he passed the coffee table he saw a folded up congratulations banner. He swallows past a weight in his throat, pushing past the thoughts that his family must be disappointed. “I’m home!” he calls.
April rushes out from the kitchen and greeted him with a shell-crushing hug. "I'm sorry you couldn't get the job, Mike. They just don't know taste even if it hit 'em," she reassured, pulling back to look at him. It helped to curb those toxic thoughts, and Mikey supposes if anyone understands his struggles right now, it's April. He's pretty sure her longest-lasting job was a month.
“I'll just have to make something that’ll really knock them off their feet!” Mikey grinned. April laughed in response, “Go get 'em, tiger!” She rubbed his head, shifting his mask so he had to readjust it. Splinter joined them, as Mikey bumped into April’s side playfully.
“I plan on it! I'll get hired somewhere! Then everyone will know what I can do,” Mikey declared, optimistically. Even if the repeated rejection of his hard-earned skills was... a little humbling. Yeah, he just, needed a bit of a reality check. Then he can improve some more. Not only that, but he won't be everyone's cup of tea. It'll be fine. Constructive criticism never hurts.
Mikey notices Splinter observing him in a daze, he meets Mikey's gaze with troubled eyes. "I don't know, Orange. The entertainment industry is very... Critical," he tried to carefully explain. Mikey internally groaned, not wanting to have this conversation again. “I can handle myself, Dad,” he reminded, passing the rat to grab a drink from the kitchen.
As he filled up his glass of water, he looked around and checked for any flambé torches or knives sitting in places they shouldn’t be. "I mean, that was years ago! My manager could be super nice!" Mikey called to them from the other room, only to be surprised they joined him in the kitchen. Splinter had taken a seat near the table as April stood next to the counter.
“I don't know, Mikey... maybe Splints is right. Have you seen the news recently?” April questioned, looking just as concerned as his father. “There’s more stories of strikes, and I know that even outside the entertainment industry, corporations are cruel.”
Mikey paused, thinking about the animator strikes, canceled shows, abused actors and exploited passions. There’s been times where he wonders if following his father’s footsteps was the right move. He pushed down those doubts. “I have to do this,” he told them, determined.
After a moment of staring at the tile, Splinter gave a sigh before giving a soft look only a parent could give, “I'll be here for whatever you choose to do.” Mikey faltered against that, knowing his father’s history and concerns. But that can’t stop him. “Thanks, Dad.”
Silence filled the kitchen, April looking like she was struggling with herself for what to say. Splinter looked through the table, lost in memories Mikey himself only barely remembered. The silence was heavy with contemplation and worries. He didn’t know how to handle it, tapping on his glass.
“Well! I’m going to go draw in my room! Can’t lose all that inspiration!” he exclaimed, suddenly, before running to his room. As hurrying around the corner, he vaguely overhears April asking Splinter if he’s okay before he closes the door. He's fine. Or he will be. He didn’t want to think too much about it.
He pulls out his sketchbook and starts sketching.
Hours were spent with him scratching into the pages, flipping from one unsatisfying sheet to another. The arms were too thick, the face was placed wrong, the backgrounds didn't look right, or the colors were wrong. He felt frustration build up after every eraser use and every new side. It isn't until his pencil breaks that he decides to take a break. As he grumbled about his art block, he decided to check the time.
2:12
He winced, deciding to call it for the night. He stretched, returning feeling from his scrunched position until he noticed how dry his mouth felt. He finished his glass awhile ago. While leaving his room to refill his cup of water, he pauses, deciding to make a quick stop down the hall.
Dad could never bring himself to downsize, they really only needed two rooms but they remained with five. Outside of their bedrooms, one was used as a guest room, then a studio for Mikey, and the last one was given for this reason. He's certain that in another time, these extra rooms would've been for his brothers.
Instead of the singular room they currently had. It was a room with a large shrine that had three sections for each brother, with a family photo that sat above it. On it were various candles, flowers (a few of which would need to be replaced again soon), some comics, games, a blue jersey, a red football helmet, and a purple game boy.
Mikey took great care lighting incense and candles before sitting on his heels. He turned his gaze to the family picture that hung above. There was a slider posing for the camera trying to push himself into the middle where a softshell was. The softshell was clearly yelling at him in the picture, as a snapper in the back tried pulling the slider back to his place. A little Mikey sat upon the snapper's shoulders, frozen mid-laugh.
Dad said it was the best picture he could get of the four of them, they moved around so much that it usually turned out blurry.
"Hey guys, I'm... still working on becoming a star. I got turned away again, but don't worry! Nothing can really knock me down, baby!” Mikey claimed, confidently, before his shoulders slumped. He looked down at his hands that rested on his knees. “Dad's worried about me going into the industry, he says that 'I'm too young' and 'it's a harmful workplace,'" he used finger quotes to emphasize his annoyance, "I mean, I'm 16 now! I'm old enough to work! I'll be fine."
He paused, taking another moment to stare at the picture. He didn't remember much about his older brothers anymore. Most of what he knew about them were the stories Splinter would tell. The clearest thing he could remember was a promise made by the four of them.
"One day we'll be stars! Just like Lou Jitsu! But be even cooler!"
A promise that was a decade old.
It was while he sat there in silence, thinking about his hang-ups, that he admitted, “I wonder how differently things would've turned out if you guys were still here.” After a few moments, he brought himself to his feet and blew out the candles. With an aching heart, he grabbed another glass of water as he headed to bed. A feeling of something missing haunted him as he fell asleep.
The next morning, he rolls over and opens up his phone. Blearily squinting at the notification on his screen. He opened it up, reading it before shooting upright, reading it again.
He gave an excited squeal as he jumped out of bed and raced to the living room, knowing Splinter would be there. It was rare for Splinter to sleep in his bed, Mikey's pretty sure he can count on one hand when he's seen his father use his room.
“Dad! Dad! Wake up! I got a job!” Mikey exclaimed, as soon as he spotted a familiar tail on the ground.
Splinter jolted awake from his spot in the living room, clutching his chest. After realizing everything was fine, he started muttering about it being 'too early for excited boys'. Mikey stood in front of his chair, bouncing from foot to foot. Splinter sleepily mumbled, “Yes, Orange?”
“I got an interview! They want me as a background artist for a show! I get to publish my work! It's in two hours! We need to get ready!" he rushed to explain, trying to show his phone. Splinter took his phone to read it properly, since the turtle's excited bouncing made it difficult. His expression was unreadable as he read through the message, explaining the job, time and location. It was smaller, but it was something!
Mikey was driven crazy with anticipation by the time a proud grin stretched across his father's face. "Congrats! Something for your art,” he stated, handing his phone back. He stroked at the longer fur on his chin, “although, I would've preferred cooking. Even more delicious food I could eat.”
Mikey rolled his eyes, all too aware of what his father was actually saying and teasing about. This has been a running gag since he learned how to cook.
Splinter would make a comment about him being a famous chef instead of whatever role Mikey was talking about taking, Mikey would complain saying, “Dad, you can cook just fine for yourself” and then Splinter would go, “Oh, but I'm not a famous chef in the making. I'm going to need a recipe for that.” Then, Mikey would make them food while Splinter helped.
They had enough time for breakfast before they left.
That and they had to wait for April to pick them up as the only one able to drive in the family. Also the only one with a car. Splinter was too short to operate any normal car.
As April drove them to his next possible workplace, Mikey struggled to sit still in his seat. Squirming and excitedly rambling about how this is his chance while double, tripe, quadruple checking the portfolio he brought with him. It wasn't his first interview by any means, but it was the first one where they reached out to him.
As soon as April stopped, Mikey unbuckled his seatbelt and leaped out the door. “Thanks for driving me here, April,” she sarcastically remarked from the window. “Thanks for driving me here, April!” Mikey called, spinning around. “I love you guys! Wish me luck!”
He could hear Splinter and April shouting in response, just before he entered the building.
His jaw dropped as he took in his surroundings, space was large and open. Shiny white floors with gray tiled walls and various pictures decorating them. He could tell through a door that one room had a meeting table with ideas sketched into a whiteboard in the corner. He tried to get a better look for other areas, but was interrupted by the receptionist. “Uh, can I help you?”
Mikey halted his investigation and hurried over. “Oh ya, sorry! I'm Michaelangelo Hamato, I'm here for my interview as a background artist?” he explained. The receptionist stared at him for a moment before typing on his computer. “Right, Ms. Langenstein has been waiting for you,” he noted, getting out of his seat. “Follow me.”
Mikey hurriedly tailed behind him as he led him down a separate hall. He noted various offices that looked to be for different jobs. “So, what have you guys been working on?” he questioned, curiously. “I'm just a receptionist, I don't work on the projects,” he responded, shortly. Mikey cringed, right, ya that makes sense.
At the end of the hall, he knocks on the door. “Irma, your interview is here,” the man announced. Moments later, the door opened to reveal a woman with short brown hair and square glasses. “Take a seat in front of the desk,” she directed. Mikey nodded and hurried over to a comfy dark chair. Irma closed the door and sat behind the desk.
“Hello, Micheal Jitsu-”
“Oh, it's Michaelangelo Hamato actually-”
“I see you got my message for a background artist?” she questioned without letting him properly introduce himself. “Yep!” he responded with a shaky grin, struggling to get comfortable in front of her. “I'm just wondering what I'd be a background artist for?”
“Whatever project we need it for. May I see your portfolio?” Irma politely requested, noting the folder that rested in his hands. Mikey handed it over to her, trying to ignore the nagging thought that he should know what he’s working on. Irma flipped through it, looking unimpressed. “What are your other experiences?” she questioned, glancing up at him.
He swallowed, steadying his voice before answering, “I don't have any.”
The woman’s gaze remained until she returned to what she was looking at previously. She hummed before passing him back his work. “Do you have any questions for me?” she asked him as he readjusted the haphazard papers inside.
“Oh uh, what project would I work on?” Mikey stumbled, not adjusted to getting that particular question. “You'd be the background artist for our mystery series that will be airing next month,” she stated, calmly. “That's a short time to animate a series,” Mikey noted in surprise. That was way too little time for anyone to work, or at least he’s pretty sure it is. “You misunderstood, this will be a live-action series,” Irma corrected, adjusting some of her papers. Mikey fell silent, before asking confused “Then why do you need a background artist? Don't you mean a matte painter?”
“No, I mean background artist. You will be making paintings that will be destroyed or hung in the background,” Irma stated. Mikey soaked in those words for a moment, feeling his heart fall. He wanted to protest that those would be props not background art. He swallowed hard, before nodding along. Pushing aside the dismay that his creations would be destroyed to prioritize this opportunity. “Any other questions?” Irma questioned. Mikey shook his head.
Irma nodded. “You'll start next Monday at 1 PM, if that's good for you?” she made direct eye contact with him, which somehow grew to make Mikey even more uncomfortable then he was. “Good, I will see you then Mr. Jitsu.”
That last sentence only unsettled him more as he made his goodbyes and left the room.
When Mikey told Splinter and April about his successful interview, they whooped and congratulated him. Mikey didn't mention how off-putting or strange the interview was, not wanting to worry his family more and ruin the mood. “I know just where to go to celebrate,” Splinter declared, suddenly. “There's a pizza place we used to visit when you were younger, Orange. I believe it's time we revisit it.”
Mikey felt his bad mood diminish at Splinter's words. “What pizza place?” he questioned. They didn't revisit a lot of places they went to with his brothers, and considering he didn't remember it... “It's a yokai owned, hole in the wall restaurant, I must admit. I've been missing the food there," Splinter explained, scratching at his stomach from his spot in the passenger seat.
April didn't question why she had never heard of it, she probably had the same idea as to why. “That's a good idea, Splints. Where to?” was all she said. As Splinter gave her directions, they all talked about what they could eat on their pizza. Mystery yokai toppings that looked like worms were immediately vetoed by April, so they settled on a large supreme.
April parked in a parking lot nearby at Splinter's direction. They all hurried out of the car, excited to eat at the pizza place he spoke of. Mikey felt hungry just talking about it, and hoped they were close.
He followed Splinter as he guided the way through the streets, Mikey looking at the signs around for anything that could be the pizza place Splinter spoke of. April started up a game where they'd ask him if one of the places they saw was the right one.
“No, that's not it either. And don't eat there, it'll make you sick,” he responded with a huff. Suddenly his ears perked and he hurried forward, exciting the other two into silence. At least until he went down an empty alleyway. Mikey noted how April's nose wrinkled in disgust, he didn't blame her, it smelled pretty bad. He's also pretty sure that was a dead pigeon next to the wall. "Are you sure this is the spot, Splints?"
Splinter was currently analyzing all of the walls, jumping from spot to spot excitably. Oh if those newsies saw how their famed Lou Jitsu was now. Mikey was about to try recommending going somewhere else until he watched as Splinter opened a portal from the graffiti waiting there. "Aha! After you," he motioned.
April hesitated but Mikey was excited to try a portal, not having a lot of experience around any magic growing up. "Whoa..." Mikey's eyes jumped across the warm scenery and various yokai and mutants as his family joined him inside. April elbowed him in the side for staring, as a skeleton yokai came to greet them.
"Hello, how can I help you?" the skeleton yokai asked, April and Mikey remained quiet and stunned. Splinter pushed himself through the two of them to the front. “Yes, I'd like a table for three please.”
The skeleton yokai gathered some menus at the host station before leading them to their table. They glanced at the menu, having already decided what they wanted, they jumped into conversation. “So, April, what’re ya going to major in college?” Mikey asked.
She planted her face in her hands, and groaned. “I still haven’t decided between bioengineering or journalism,” she admitted. “I mean, I know I can learn both. I just haven’t actually decided what I want to do as a living.” Her hand waved around as she spoke, deciding to stare at the yokai passing by. “No matter what I want to help yokai and humans get along more, I just don't know how to go about it.”
“Well, I’m sure that no matter what you choose, you’ll be great!” Mikey boasted, imagining his older sister now. Helping the people that need it, regardless of what they are. His sister is strong, she’ll do it, he’s certain of it.
“Have you decided on what you want to order?” the skeleton yokai from earlier asked from the end of the table. “Yes, can we get one extra large supreme? My future star can eat a lot,” Splinter requested, winking at Mikey. The turtle in question flustered, hiding behind the menu in embarrassment as April started to laugh.
“Thanks Mike,” she responded, but he saw the mirth in her eyes. “It’s so good to know I’ll be appreciated by our future star.” There it is, he internally bemoaned.
Eventually the pizza was brought out, Mikey noted that the server stared at him for a moment. Great, this is Splinter’s fault.
However, he couldn’t be mad for long, since Splinter began to reminisce about Mikey's brothers while they ate. “Orange here, was always willing to try anything at least once. Little Red, however? He ate everything. I had to tell that boy more than once to stop trying to eat his fork,” Splinter grumbled, as laughs followed through the table. “How can you eat a fork?” April questioned between giggles. “You’d be surprised with that boy.”
“Even worse, everytime we came here, Blue loved hawaiian. But Purple refused to try pineapple on pizza, it always led to a fight between those two,” Splinter explained, exasperated. A far away look in his eyes as he was telling the stories, motioning with his hands. “I'm sure the workers knew us just by their yelling.”
It continued on like that for what was probably a good hour or so later until they decided it was time to gather their things and head home for the night. “You guys finish up, I need to use the bathroom,” Mikey told them, as he left to find a restroom.
When he left the bathroom, it was then he started noticing glances in his direction that he tried to ignore. He had an ex-star as a dad after all, and even going underground won't wipe people's memories. That and everyone knew of the four sons he had, stares weren’t all that surprising.
That's what he assumed it was until he overheard someone whisper, “I didn't know there were more kappa that looked like that.”
Mikey turned to look in the direction he heard that statement. His distraction caused him to run into someone. “Omigosh, I'm so sorry. I was just-” he froze in shock.
Maybe it was the fact his father just told him stories about his brothers. Maybe it was the (frankly, rude) comment he just overheard. Or maybe it was simply because the turtle in front of him looked identical to the picture he had at home.
In front of him stood a slider, with a blue bandana tied around his neck. He was wearing a flannel jacket with old jeans that looked like it's seen better days. He had a raised brow ridge with a scar that cut across one of his markings. But the resemblance was undeniable.
"Leo?" He breathed, wondering if this was a dream. In response, the other's shoulders tensed briefly before pulling back to puff out his chest. The slider gave a large cocky grin. “A fan?” he questioned, placing a hand on his hip.
Mikey didn't even process that he said anything before he blurted, "How old are you?" He shouldn't even be asking. This was some stranger that just happens to look the same as his brother.
His grin fell off his face as he eyed him warily. "17, why? Because if you're thinking since I might be around your age that we’ll hang, then I hate to break it y-” Leo was unfortunately cut off as Mikey rapid fire questions him, “Leonardo Hamato? Your birthday is on August 3rd? You, you uh, you have yellow stripes and a blue shell?”
Leo gave him a long, blank stare. “Wonderful. A stalker,” he states flatly, turning to look at the restaurant around him. Mikey felt his face flush looking around at the other yokai that were now openly watching them. “I'm not a stalker!” he wasn't sure if he was telling Leo or the onlookers.
“Right.. So how did you know those things about me?” Leo questioned, shifting his weight and placing one of his hands in his pockets. Despite looking laidback, Mikey felt oddly threatened? But this was Leo, he just said it was. So, it must’ve just been his nerves, he could still feel the heat of everyone’s eyes on them.
“Because I'm your brother! I thought you were dead!” he cried, a feeling of desperation welling up in him. He's not crazy. This is brother, it has to be, he can feel it. He no longer cared they were making a scene, he just found the brother he thought was dead for a decade.
“Eugh boy, didn't expect to be dealing with a stan tonight-” Stan? Mikey's not a stan? Now that he thinks about it, what was Leo talking about with fans? He watched as Leo seemed to be looking for something specifically. “-and, I really don't want to get kicked from this place. Bone-man himself told me if I cause any more trouble here I'll get banned. And I really like this place sooo. I'll come back later,” he declared, spinning on his heel.
What? What, no!
Mikey latched onto Leo's hand. “Don’t you remember me?” he questioned, feeling a little hurt. Granted, he didn't remember him either but he was six! He has good reason to not remember him! Well, okay in hindsight that’s also a good reason for Leo to not remember him. Mikey at least had his dad’s stories.
Leo's grin tightened, just as his shoulders did. “Listen, kiddo-” “Mikey! I'm a year younger than you!” “Mikey, whatever, just because we're turtles, doesn't mean we're related. I mean, c'mon. I'm rocking as a slider and you're an.. Orange, spotted turtle,” he tried to explain, pulling away from Mikey's grip. “. . . Although I don't know much about turtle types, if I’m honest.”
Mikey tilted his head with furrowed brows. “Why does that matter? Dad's a rat and I have a sister whose human,” he informed Leo bluntly. He looked like he was momentarily confused by those words before considering, “... Touché, but I'm not your brother. I don't have any brothers.”
Mikey struggled to find another point of evidence. “When we were younger, we promised to be even more famous than Lou Jitsu! Do you remember that?” he asked. Surely he remembered their promise? Mikey still remembered, and he hardly remembered anything regarding his brothers.
They stared at each other as Mikey's heart pounded. It fell when Leo suddenly bursted out laughing. “Sorry, sorry. It's just, did we pinky promise?” he teased, making Mikey aware of his surroundings again as a few other chuckles sounded from the environment. With a hot face he looked around and noticed the other, more pitying looks.
He turned to look his brother back in the eye. “I-I don't know. Maybe?” he answered in a small voice. Leo gave a few more chuckles, before giving him his full attention. “I'm already more famous than Lou Jitsu. Which I take that you aren't considering I've never heard of you before now,” matching his scathing reply, was a confident grin.
Mikey felt annoyance build up at his attitude. He was trying, but he was just getting this as a response. Before he could tell his brother(?) off, his phone started to ring. As everyone continued to stare he quickly glanced at his phone, seeing it was Splinter. Probably wondering where he's at.
He debated what to do, glancing between his phone, the people around him and Leo. He hissed a swear under his breath, promising to himself he'd call his dad back after he left. “I have to go but! I'll be back here tomorrow and so will you! Because I'm going to prove we're brothers! I know it!” He declared, running past Leo to leave the building.
Maybe Mikey should've confirmed Leo would actually come back. But something told him he would see him again, and Mikey would prove they were brothers. He just needed to figure out how.