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💸the gambling chat💸
October 21st, 2018 08:55 PM
Leah Boyle
So… $50 bucks that Jane is not her real name.
Selena Chouinard
I agree. This is all very mysterious.
Cassie Boodram
Leah, babe, what happened to “I am seeing the boundary. I am respecting the boundary.”
Leah Boyle
What? Jane doesn’t want us to ask her about her life, and I’m not.
She never asked us not to speculate about her to each other.
Cassie Boodram
Nope. I am not getting involved in this mess, and you shouldn’t either. Betting about her is a bad idea.
Leah Boyle
Oh yeah totally.

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October 21st, 2018 09:10 PM
Leah has created a new group
Selena Chouinard has been added to the group.
You have been added to the group.
Caitlin Dykstra has been added to the group.
Leah has named the group “💸What happens in the secret gambling chat, stays in the secret gambling chat💸”
I don’t know about this, Leah.
Cass just said she didn’t want us betting on Jane.
Leah Boyle
She never technically said that. She just said it was a bad idea, and she didn’t want to be involved 🤷🏾‍♀️
Caitlin Dykstra
And that’s different how?
I guess…
Caitlin Dykstra
And I get why you didn’t add Jane or Cass, but where’s Georgia?
Leah Boyle
Georgia? Please that woman cannot keep her mouth shut to save her life.
So, you’re doing something that we have to keep our mouths shut about?
Leah Boyle
If it makes you uncomfortable, Alli I won’t be mad if you have to leave the group.
I swear I don’t mean anything by it. I like Jane, I do! But when it gets revealed she’s secretly a russian spy I want to make some money, ya know?
No, I’ll stay.
Selena Chouinard
I do not think Jane is a Russian spy.
I think probably she is someone really famous.
Leah Boyle
Ooooo I can totally see that.
So, anyone willing to bet against me and say Jane is actually her real name?
Caitlin Dykstra
Oh not a chance.
Though you’d think if she was picking a fake name she wouldn’t choose “Jane” of all names. That’s literally the name they assign unidentitified women.
I’m not taking that bet either sorry 🙈
Caitlin Dykstra
I think it’s too early to bet on Jane’s identity. Give us time to build proper theories, then we should put money down.
Leah Boyle
Okay, that works.
Any progress on the other bets? Anyone figure out why Rozanov signed with Ottawa of all places yet?
Selena Chouinard
I tried to ask him at Cassie’s barbeque and he told me it was because he really liked loons.
Maybe he meant loons like loonies, as in money? Like he moved bc we offered to pay him really well?
Leah Boyle
Eh that’s a stretch.
That bet is just gonna have to stay open 😒

💸the gambling chat💸
November 5th, 2018 09:01 PM
Leah Boyle
I bet $50 Jane and Rozanov will be the next to have a baby.
Cassie Boodram
Caitlin is literally 7 months pregnant, babe.
But sure, I’ll take your money.
Leah Boyle
OBVIOUS I’M NOT INCLUDING CAIT
Selena Chouinard
Hm I would not be so sure. They are not even engaged yet.
Now, if the bet was whether they will be engaged within the year, then I would agree with you.
Leah Boyle
Thats a pretty old fashioned statement from a woman who got married to her husband after a month of engagement
While three months pregnant.
Selena Chouinard
Do as I say, not as I do.
I will take your bet, and in one year, when Jane is still not pregnant, I will be $50 richer
Leah Boyle
We’ll see.
November 11th, 2018 5:10 PM
Cassie Boodram
Going to put the bet updates from the other chat here for convenience.
According to Rozanov’s girlfriend, Jane, Rozanov signed here to get Canadian citizenship, and so no money will change hands, and the bet is cancelled.
Nick Chouinard
DAMMIT
Caitlin Dykstra
Evan was the closest since he bet Rozanov moved to get away from Trump, and apparently politics was a factor in, while Rozanov preferred Canada.
Evan Dykstra
OH HELL YEAH
So I win?
Cassie Boodram
Nope. Jane said that wasn’t close enough and to just cancel the bet so that’s what we’re doing.
Evan Dykstra
Tanner Dillion
Can we please talk about the mother fucking elephant in the room?
SHANE HOLLANDER WAS FUCKING TRADED
Fuck the mystery of Roz signing with us. What the fuck happened with Montreal?
Who would voluntarily get rid of Shane motherfucking Hollander???
I think the Queens mascot is a Rhino not an elephant...
Cassie Boodram
The SAPS have already started betting, but you’re welcome to join. Everyone is betting $50
Selena bet Hollander moved for love (to be closer to Rose Landry)
Leah bet Hollander moved due to a toxic (potentially racist) work environment. Leah also bet an additional $50 that he moved to get away from Roz.
Caitlin bet that Hollander chose to move for more LA business opportunities.
Allison bet that Hollander did not want the trade and was pressured to waive his no-trade clause under threat of waivers.
Zane Boodram
This whole situation is a mess.
I agree with Leah (about the toxic work environment, not Hollzy fleeing the country to avoid Roz) so I’ll put $50 on that too if she doesn’t mind splitting the winnings with me.
Leah Boyle
All good with me.
Zane Boodram
But with that I’l also going to jump in on Allison’s guess. The trade was not Hollander’s idea. No way.
Nick Chouinard
Right?? No offense, ladies but players don’t control trades. No way this was Hollander’s call.
Caitlin Dykstra
Hollander’s contract expires at the end of the season. If he made it clear to management that he did not intend to renew his contract, it would make sense for them to trade him instead of taking the loss.
Especially for a player like Hollander, who only a fool would consider trading without a financial incentive.
Nick Chouinard
Eh I guess.
Can I bet that Montreal traded him because they’re fucking idiots?
Cassie Boodram
Nope, too vague and impossible to provide evidence for.
Nick Chouinard
You want evidence? Their powerplay's 32nd in the league
Evan Dykstra
As usual, I think my wife is right. Put me down for $50 on Hollzy moving for business opportunities.
And an extra $50 if he used his expiring contract to push the trade.
Tanner Dillion
I’m with Selena. He is totally moving cuz he’s dating Rose Landry.
Cassie Boodram
Accepted. I’ll put a spreadsheet together and share it with the chat later.

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December 21st, 2018 01:40 PM
Leah Boyle
I think we’re waited long enough
I’m ready to be in on Jane’s identity cuz i finally have a good guess.
Selena Chouinard
Ah, you think she is the beautiful woman from Rose Landry’s instagram, yes? The Captaine’s childhood best friend?
Leah Boyle
Fuck yes, I do. Jane Davidson is 100% Svetlana Vetrovna. Think about it!
Jane and Rozanov have known each other forever ✔️
Svetlana and Roz apparently slept together for years ✔️
Svetlana works for another team, which gives them motivation to keep it private ✔️
Caitlin Dykstra
You know what actually. I can see it.
Put me down for $100
Selena Chouinard
Yes, me too.
Jane gives attractive vibes and Svetlana is GORGEOUS
Caitlin Dykstra
And Jane knows her puck, and Svetlana works in hockey analytics. Like that is so Jane.
Selena Chouinard
@Allison, we need someone to bet against us. You game?
Caitlin Dykstra
We could get the guys in on this, too. Maybe just our husbands tho since Leah wants this chat on the DL?
Leah Boyle
Yeah if we can get anyone to disagree with us, which I doubt since our theory is fucking fool proof.
Selena Chouinard
Eh there is an idiot born every minute. I think we can get at least one of the guys to bet against us.
Leah Boyle
...
Actually I change my mind. I don’t think she’s Svetlana.
Caitlin Dykstra
THIS WAS YOUR IDEA!
Who do you think she is then?
Leah Boyle
Honestly idk yet. I just have reason to think it’s not Svetlana, so I’m going to bet against you guys.
n?
Caitlin Dykstra
She literally works for another team! It makes perfect sense for them to keep it private.
Maybe they have another reason to keep it a secret 🤔 like what if Jane is actually a man and they’re keeping it on the DL because the NHL is super homophobic?
Selena Chouinard
…that would make a lot of sense.
I’m not going to tell you guys not to bet on that, but please be careful saying things like that. A rumour about any player being queer is risky, but Rozanov is Russian. People thinking he’s queer could be super dangerous for him.
Leah Boyle
Oh shit. It’s like illegal there, isn’t it?
Okay nope I’m not going to risk getting Roz murdered cuz I started some dumb rumour. So not going there.
Leah Boyle has deleted 3 messages.
Selena Chouinard
Yes, while Rozanov has always given me a vibe I would not want to spread any rumours that could truly hurt him.
I am sticking with my Svetlana Vetrovna bet.
Selena Chouinard has deleted 1 message
I’ll bet on that one too.
Leah Boyle
Shit well now I have to think of something else to bet.
Leah Boyle
Leah Boyle
Fuck, I literally can’t think of anything.
I’m going to add our men/ Alli’s ex man so hopefully they have some theories .
Fred Boyle has been added to the group.
Evan Dykstra has been added to the group.
Nick Chouinard has been added to the group.
Tanner Dillion has been added to the group.
Leah Boyle
Boys, we’re betting on the real identity of Roz’s girlfriend Jane. Put money down so I get more time to think my guess out.
Evan Dykstra
Jane is 100% some kind of Russian operative.
Hayes was telling me about all about Black widow’s backstory from the comics, and I bet Jane has been through some similar shit. Like some Russian ballerina assassin type shit.
Nick Chouinard
Oh shit I can totally see that. Put me down for whatever Evan is betting.
Evan Dykstra
I was thinking like $200?
Nick Chouinard
Fuck, sure, whatever.
Freddie Boyle
I like your first idea. Totally makes sense for Jane to be Roz’s childhood best friend who works for the Bears. I’ll bet $100 on that too.
Tanner Dillion
Nah you’re all wrong. She’s def a pop star.
Wait do we know how old Jane is? When was she born?
Her facebook says December 1992
Tanner Dillion
Okay so if she’s lying about her name she’s def lying about her bday. But I think she probs kept the year the same.
Damn there were a lot of pop stars born in 1992.
Okay I’m betting $100 she’s Selena Gomez, but Miley Cyrus and Demi Lovato are 1992 babies too, so can I get $20 if she’s one of them?
Leah Boyle
Sure?
I sustain my right to place my bet in later.
Selena Chouinard
Yes, but you must tell us why you are so sure now she is not Svetlana Vetrovna when it was your idea.
Leah Boyle
Svetlana is Russian, like spent parts of her life LIVING in Russia.
Caitlin Dykstra
And? Jane has mentioned she speaks Russian before.
Leah Boyle
Nope. Jane is LEARNING Russian.
We have a friend streak on Duolingo.
Evan Dykstra
Well fuck.
Nick Chouinard
That doesn’t mean shit.
No legit Russian spy would admit to being fluent in Russian.
Selena Chouinard
Hmmm
No, I still think we are right.
Jane said she is learning two languages. One from scratch, and a language she grew up speaking with family but is out of pracitce in.
What level is her Russian on duolingo?
Leah Boyle
idk it doesn’t show me that.
Selena Chouinard
Then I am not changing my bet. She is Svetlana Vetrovna, I am sure of this.
Leah Boyle
Okaaaayy but don’t say I didn’t warn you.
Okay, who’s running this bet? I’m used to Cassie managing us all tbh.
I can do it.
I know I said I’d bet on her being Roz’s friend, but I think I’ll stay out of this one.
Leah Boyle
easy.
January 10th, 2019 6:31 PM
Leah Boyle
Okay I have officially figured out who Jane is.
Caitlin Dykstra
Took you long enough to come up with a new theory.
Leah Boyle
Excuse me for taking the time to put thought into my bet and gather evidence.
What’s your theory, Leah? 👀
Leah Boyle
Jane is married to (or an ex of) of one of the Voyageurs.
My top suspect is Jackie Pike, Hayden Pike’s wife.
Oh and I’m betting $75
Caitlin Dykstra
Dude.
You think Roz is a homewrecker?
Leah Boyle
Hey hear me out! Look I love Jane, but c’mon what’s the number one reason people have for keeping relationships secret?
INFIDELITY
Selena Chouinard
I do not think that is a real statistic.
I am confident there are many more same sex couples who stay private because of homophobia than people who are cheating.
Especially if we count couples all over the world and not only in Canada. There must be so many secret relationships in places like Russia or the Middle East.
Aw thinking about that makes me so sad 💔 especially historical same-sex couples. I’ve read so many historical romances about forbidden queer romances, and I cry everytime 😢
Leah Boyle
Okay, yeah you’re probably right,
But infidelity is probably the number 1 reason for keeping a relationship a secret for straight couples at least.
Besides, it doesn’t have to be infidelity. I said ex partner too! Maybe Jane is co-parenting or exes with some asshole who would smear her name if he knew she was with Roz.
Caitlin Dykstra
You literally said she’s Jackie Pike. Who is very much still married and has 4 kids with her husband.
Caitlin Dykstra
Also Jane and Roz have been together for like a decade. When exactly would this first marriage fit in?
Leah Boyle
Maybe it’s an open relationship?
All I know is the Voyageurs tickets Jane scored us were in Montreal’s friends and family section, and they were HAYDEN PIKE’S SEATS.
Selena Chouinard
Hmm I think maybe you are right that Jane has connection to Voyageurs, but I do not think this must mean she is married to one.
Maybe she and Jackie are old friends?
Leah Boyle
Whatever I stand by my bet.
Caitlin Dykstea
Hey, it’s your money.

Lisa Hayes
January 16th, 2018 04:51 PM
Hey Lisa! We haven’t had a chance to get to know each other, and I hope it’s not weird for me to message you out of the blue like this
But I just wanted to confirm you wanted to bet on Jane being Shane Hollander and ask you why you thought that?
Hey Alli.
No stress. Please don’t read too much into my bet.
I’m not trying to spread any rumours, or do or say anything that could hurt Jane or Rozanov.
I appreciate that.
I know you mean well, I was just wondering if you meant it as a joke?
I probably shouldn’t have said anything.
Okay because if you did believe something, or know something, then I wouldn’t repeat it to anyone.
I don’t know anything, but IF Jane were Shane Hollander respecting their right to privacy and coming out on their own terms would be a priority for me.
Okay, I feel like I’m in a friends episode right now. Did you figure out that Jane is Shane Hollander too?
Oh thank god. I’m really bad at talking in riddles.
For the record I don’t actually know anything for sure, it was just a theory.
But then you suggested it and one more person seeing it makes me think I’m probably right.
So, when did you figure it out?
I figured Hollander was gay from rumours Hayes heard in Toronto, and the whole Queens trade mess, but I didn’t think he was Jane until Jane happened to call a plumber on the same night as Shane Hollander.
Oh yeah that was super obvious. Kind of concerned the other girls didn’t realize from that.
I figured Jane was probably a man from the start when she wouldn’t tell us anything about herself. I mean, with hockey being the way it is and Rozanov being Russian, it just seemed like the most obvious reason for him to keep a relationship secret.
It didn’t occur to me that Jane could be Shane until they announced the Irina foundation together. Idk there were vibes, and when Jane talked to us about it she kind of gave a vibe that she was personally involved.
But you didn’t bet on it because you didn’t want to out them?
Shit now I feel like a dick. Should I withdrawel the bet?
Honestly, I was half joking… kind of.
No, I think you’re okay. The less we bring up the theory, the less opportunities the other girls have to connect the dots.
Smart.
Should we tell Jane or Rozanov that we know? It might be good for them to know they have people in their corner.
I’ve thought about it, but idk… I don’t want to scare them off.
Maybe one day? But for now, I think we should give them time to come out to us in their own time.
Fair.
Also “Jane” and “Shane”
men are idiots
I mean… 🙈 you’re not wrong.

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January 16th, 2019 5:03 PM
Cassie Boodram has been added to the group.
Lisa Hayes has been added to the group.
Cassie Boodram
You guys made another group for this, really?
Leah Boyle
You said you didn’t want to be involved!
Cassie Boodram
Whatever, just be glad Jane is cool with this.
God the way you guys organized this is so chaotic. Why is everyone betting different amounts?
What does everyone just have to pay whatever the winner bet? This is complete madness.
Please tell me there’s at least a spreadsheet.
no…
Honestly I just figured I could scroll through this chat.
Leah Boyle
Cassie Boodram
Not to take over…but Imma take over.
Can everyone agree on a set amount, say $100?
I’m going to make a spreadsheet and add everyones new bets.
Fine with me 😅 I was not made to be a bookie.
I’m also going to ask Jane if she wants in this (and the other) group.
I know we usually wait for someone to make a bet to add them, but I don’t want her to feel excluded.
Leah Boyle
Fair.
Cassie Boodram
Okay I PM’d Jane and she said she’d rather not be involved, which might be for the best.
Cassie Boodram
spreadsheet link I’ve added all the bets that Alli mentioned in the main chat.
@Lisa Hayes you sticking with your Shane Hollander theory?
Lisa Hayes
Yep.
Leah Boyle
Care to elaborate on why?
Lisa Hayes
Nope.

💸the gambling chat💸
Febuary 14th, 2019 08:55 PM
Selena Chouinard
I bet $50 that Shane Hollander and Rose Landry are engaged.
Caitlin Dykstra
Girl you’re still on this?
Selena Chouinard
Oh, so you are sure they are not? Are you sure enough to risk $50?
Caitlin Dykstra
We can’t bet on everything, dude.
Selena Chouinard
Since when?
Caitlin Dykstra
Okay point.
Fuck it sure, put me down for $50
Febuary 22st, 2019 08:55 PM
Leah Boyle
So… do we all owe Alli $50 now?
How the fuck did you guess Hollander of all fucking people was being traded here?
Lucky guess 🤷🏽‍♀️
Caitlin Dykstra
I’m not even mad I lost the bet tbh.
Selena Chouinard
$50 is fuckin nothing compared to having Shane Hollander on our team.
I would spend like 10x that
Leah Boyle
Real.
Wait, are we sounding like clueless rich people again?
I mean… a little bit.
But it’s okay because you guys have just made me $200 richer ❤️
I’m going to eat at a restaurant without a drive thru AND order an appetizer 🤑🤑🤑
Leah Boyle
Love that for you queen.
Febuary 19th, 2019 08:55 PM
Leah Boyle
So… we going to bet on why Hollywood got traded again?
Caitlin Dykstra
I don’t know… I mean getting traded twice in a season is kind of a red flag, but I just can’t see Hollander being anything but a pleasure to work with.
Leah Boyle
Yeah, Hollywood just gives Boy Scout energy.
Also lets be honest, even if he was literally the fucking devil, he’s really good at Hockey. The league lets guys at his level get away with fuckin murder.
Though I wouldn’t be surprised if Hollander is held to different standards. Lord knows the league isn’t above a bit of racism.
Cassie Boodram
Oh yeah, you don’t want to know how much crap Zane has had to put up with.
Zane doesn’t buy that Hollander’s the problem. He says Hollander is always nothing but respectful at All Stars Games.
This is Zane on Cassie’s phone. Look, I’m not Hollander I don’t know what it’s like to be him, or in his specific situation, but to me it always seemed like Hollander is the kind of guy who tries really hard to be a role model to kids like him, and puts a lot of pressure on himself.
I just don’t buy that he would do anything remotely unprofessional that could jeopardize that.
Leah Boyle
Yeah, I think you’re right.
Caitlin Dykstra
Besides, the press releases from the Queens and Hollander make it sound like it was Hollander’s idea.
Selena Chouinard
Do we think he and Rose Landry broke up? 😨
Leah Boyle
Hollander is not impulsive enough to trade teams to be closer to his girlfriend, then ask to be traded again a few months later to get away from her
Caitlin Dykstra
Especially not so close to playoffs.
Leah Boyle
Honestly, I think there’s probably some personal shit going on with Hollander or his family. Like either he’s moving home to support his parents, or because he needs support.
Caitlin Dykstea
Yeah, I think you’re probably right.
Selena Chouinard
Maybe they are supporting him after bad break up…
Cassie Boodram
Babe, I think it is time to give up.
Leah Boyle
More like a mental health crisis or something? Idk would make sense if he has his own personal experience with it, since he teamed up with Roz to start that charity.
Cassie Boodram
Okay I think we are getting into invasive territory.
I think Leah’s right, whatever Hollander’s reasons for moving are, they’re clearly personal.
I say we leave this one alone.
Lisa Hayes
I think that’s probably for the best.
Leah Boyle
Okay you’re right. I was starting to feel gross even speculating.
Selena Chouinard
Yes, I think this is probably for the best.