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r/relationship_advice · Posted by u/GingerAle_MTL 1 day ago.
UPDATE: I (26M) broke up with my girlfriend, I saw him, and then I almost died. Everything’s fine now.
Relationships
I know it’s been a while. A lot has happened. I’m going to try to get through this without writing another novel, but I am apparently incapable of being brief when it comes to this man, so bear with me.
I went to the work thing in Florida, and yes, he was there. It was awkward at first, especially in the beginning, but it got easier after I let him know that I’d broken up with my girlfriend.
We were incredible together for the work thing too! I know that sounds arrogant, and I promise I am not an arrogant person in general, but there is no other word for what happened when we were the same side instead of against each other. It was like we’d been a team forever, no one else even mattered. I knew where he was going to be before he got there. He knew what I was going to do before I did it. I can’t really go into details but at one point we were doing so well that he grabbed me and kissed me on the cheek in front of people. I almost passed out I was so happy.
Later, I went to his hotel room and I told him I was gay. I’d never said that out loud before to anyone except my ex-girlfriend. He laughed at me, which was annoying, but then he got us both a drink from his mini-fridge—a Coke for himself and a ginger ale for me, because apparently he keeps my drink everywhere, not only at his apartment—and we talked and I was finally, awkwardly, able to tell him that I was sorry for running and that I can’t keep pretending that he doesn’t mean something to me. I asked if he would ever want to be more and…
… he said we couldn’t be more.
Which wasn’t what I asked, but he continued because to him it didn’t matter what he wanted, even if we could. He told me about his family back home, and both the country and his family wouldn’t be accepting of him being with another man. I can’t share more than that, but I will say that I understood for the first time why he was so afraid of letting anyone close. And… okay, yes, we did hook up. It was cathartic. He said my name again and I said it back and the world din’t end.
After that, we started texting again. We talked on the phone. He called me once from overseas when he was dealing with a family situation—a relative had passed—and he was so upset that his English was falling apart, so I told him to talk in his own language and I’d listen even though I don’t speak it. I don’t speak his language. I understood maybe two or three words out of ten minutes. It’s the closest I have ever felt to another person, and I don’t fully understand why, but I think it’s because he trusted me to hear him even when I couldn’t understand him.
I think I fell more love with him during that phone call, and how is that even possible? Or fair?
A few weeks later in April, I got badly injured at work, which I can’t go into too much detail about, it’s a setback. It was scary, but I am okay! He visited me in the hospital the next morning. I was on a lot of medication and my memory of it is patchy, but I remember his hand in my hair and how scared he looked. I remember being so happy to see him that I almost blew our cover in front of the nurse.
I asked him to come spend the summer with me. I have a place outside the city, very private, on a lake. I’ve always wanted to bring him there. I was pretty out of it when I asked, and I remember him saying “maybe,” but I don’t know if I imagined that or if he actually said it or if I dreamed the whole conversation. The medication was very strong. For a few weeks afterward I kept trying to remember if he’d said yes or no or maybe, and I couldn’t, and that uncertainty was almost worse than a flat rejection because at least a no is an answer you can grieve.
A “maybe” is a door you keep checking.
I was sad for a while. I didn’t hear from him as much as I wanted to, and I was starting to think “maybe” had actually meant “no” and I had scared him off the same way I’d scared him off the night I ran from his house.
Then some things happened, which, sorry, I also can’t go into details because they involve other people and their privacy, but there was a development in our field that made it feel like maybe the world was changing. Like maybe people like us could exist publicly someday without being destroyed for it.
He called me and I picked up and he said that he WOULD come for the Summer.
He’s coming. He’ll be here in a few weeks. I’ve never been this happy or this excited in my entire life. He’s staying for two weeks but really I would be okay with longer. Two weeks. A month. The whole summer, I don’t care. He’s coming to my home, my real home, the place I love most in the world, and I want it to be PERFECT.
The problem is I don’t know how to make it perfect for him. I know what I like: the lake, the quiet, kayaking, bonfires, grilling, yoga, reading on the dock. I could spend an entire summer doing nothing and be thrilled. But he’s different from me. He likes speed and excitement and expensive things and being the center of attention. He drives cars that cost more than most people’s houses. He gets bored easily. My cottage does not have a nightclub or a luxury car dealership or whatever else he normally fills his time with.
I have jet skis. I think he’ll like the jet skis? I don’t know if that competes with European sports cars but they do go fast.
But beyond the logistics: how do I make him feel at home? How do I make this feel like what he did for me—the dinner, the drink, the invitation into his real space—except that I actually recognize what he’s doing this time? I want him to walk in and know that I thought about what he likes. That I prepared for him. That this isn’t an accident or leftover hospitality from a party I didn’t have.
I’m going to stock the fridge with his favorite drink. He likes Coke. I can do that. I’m going to learn to make something he’d actually want to eat instead of just grilling the same chicken I always grill. Are burgers lame? I’m going to put clean sheets on my bed—my actual bed, in my actual room, where no one else has ever slept other than me—and I’m going to ask him to stay in it with me.
If anyone has suggestions for what else I can do to make a competitive, easily-bored, obscenely attractive man with expensive taste feel welcome at a lake house in the Canadian wilderness, I am open to ideas. I do not think he has ever been in a kayak. He will probably hate the bonfire. He is going to make fun of my car (again).
I can’t wait.
EDIT: Someone asked if I have a pool table.No, but I have some gym equipment and I have a hot tub. And before you ask, yes, I have already thought about the hot tub. Extensively.
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sockdrawer_feelings · 18 hours ago
"He said we couldn’t be more. Which wasn’t what I asked."
This distinction is really important and I’m glad you caught it. “We can’t” is not “I don’t want to.” Did he explain why?
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GingerAle_MTL OP · 16 hours ago
He told me about his family. I won’t share details because it’s his story and not mine, but I understood for the first time why he keeps people at a distance and why being with a man publicly isn’t the same risk for me as it is for him. For me, it’s my career and my privacy. For him, it’s that and also people he loves who could be affected in ways I don’t fully understand because I didn’t grow up where he grew up.
I sat there and listened and I wanted to fix it. That’s my instinct—solve the problem, make the plan, find the path forward. But there was no plan for this. There was only listening.
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sockdrawer_feelings · 14 hours ago
Sometimes listening is the plan.
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GingerAle_MTL OP · 12 hours ago
Yeah, I think you’re right.
He called me a few weeks later. From overseas. A family member had passed and he was upset enough that his English was falling apart. I told him to talk in his own language and I’d listen even though I don’t speak it. I talked for about ten minutes and I sat in a stairwell and didn’t move. I understood none of the words and all of what he was saying, but I felt it just the same.
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flat_white_no_foam · 4 hours ago
Have you considered: doing absolutely... nothing? You keep describing this man like he's a wild animal you need to keep stimulated with enrichment activities. He said yes to TWO WEEKS in the woods with you. He doesn't want a theme park. He wants you, in your natural habitat, being yourself. That's literally what he's signing up for.
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GingerAle_MTL OP · 3 hours ago
You're probably right. I just want it to be perfect and I know I'm boring. I still feel bad for running off last time after he'd put in effort to do something nice for me. I want him to feel that same thing (minus the freakout). That someone prepared a space specifically for him.
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flat_white_no_foam · 2 hours ago
Honestly I got the vibe that he was sorta into your boring. And stop worrying about this! OP, the space IS prepared. You're doing the thing. You just can't see it because you're standing inside it.
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swamp_thing_rising · 2 hours ago
just fuck him in the kayak
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garage_sale_guru · 2 hours ago
kayaks tip over very easily so unless OP wants to add "nearly drowned my boyfriend" to the saga I would advise against this
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ChaosGremlin99 · 1 hour ago
this man already almost died once let's not push our luck
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JustHereForNowAndThen · 39 minutes ago
@OP - you remember that famous definition that "A Canadian is someone who knows how to have sex in a canoe" (Bertrand, apocryphal)?? You should assimilate this man into our culture. Just a suggestion.
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throwaway_dumpsterfire · 17 hours ago
"I asked him to come spend the summer with me. I remember him saying “maybe.”"
A “maybe” is a door you keep checking. What changed? Why did he say yes? The hot tub edit made me laugh out loud. Godspeed.
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GingerAle_MTL OP · 15 hours ago
There was a development in our industry. I can’t be specific, but someone else in our field did something very public and very brave, and it shifted what felt possible. For both of us, I think, but especially for him. The walls didn’t come down but a window opened.
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ChaosGremlin99 · 14 hours ago
u/OrangeSpyder671 breaking your windows now, got it.
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JPike1991 · 4 hours ago
Okay I don't know the full backstory here but my husband is also competitive and easily bored and here's what works: surprise him. Wear something he's never seen you in. My husband loses his mind when I wear something new to bed, even if it's nothing fancy, because it shows I was thinking about him when he wasn't there. You don't have to go full lingerie but like... a nice pair of underwear goes a long way. Men are simple. Trust me. Is there a sports team he likes? Maybe a jersey? My husband LOVES when I wear his name and number to bed!
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GingerAle_MTL OP · 3 hours ago
I would actually rather die than wear anything like that with his team in bed but he would probably love that.
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night_owl_naps · 2 hours ago
"I hadn't thought about this at all" sir you have been thinking about the hot tub "extensively" but sexy underwear didn't cross your mind?
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JerseyDevil_throwaway · 15 hours ago
This man drives luxury sports cars and you’re hoping JET SKIS will impress him. You are adorable and insane.
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GingerAle_MTL OP · 13 hours ago
They go very fast. And you can do turns on them. He likes speed and competition and I think if I challenge him to a race he won’t be able to resist because he has never once in his life backed down from a challenge I’ve issued. That is one of the few things about him I understand completely.
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JerseyDevil_throwaway · 12 hours ago
You’re going to seduce a man with competitive jet skiing and I respect that deeply.

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garage_sale_guru · 3 hours ago
"He will probably hate the bonfire" Dude just fuck off. It's been a thing for 400,000 years. Everyone is hardwired to like that shit.
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mild_take_haver · 3 hours ago
In his defense the man apparently drives European sports cars and has "expensive taste." He might genuinely not know what a bonfire is. He might think it's a brand?
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BagelBitch_BOS · 12 hours ago
OP. I have been following your story since January. I screamed when the deleted user’s posts matched yours. I cried when you said you sat in your car for an hour on a side street. I cheered when you said you’d broken up with your girlfriend.
If you don’t update us after this summer visit I will find you through the ginger ale supply chain.
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GingerAle_MTL OP · 10 hours ago
I have never been this happy or this scared about the same thing at the same time.
Thank you for caring about this. I know it’s just the internet but it helped more than you know. I’ve never told anyone about him before this year and now strangers are rooting for us and that’s strange and also the kindest thing that’s ever happened to me.
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quietlyqueer_2891 · 8 hours ago
It’s not just the internet. We’re real people and we’re really rooting for you. Go.
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sockdrawer_feelings · 6 hours ago
CLEAN THOSE SHEETS. CHARGE THOSE JET SKIS. STOCK THAT COKE. GO GET YOUR MAN.
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chocolatefreckle · 6 hours ago
Are burgers lame?
No! Burgers are not lame!!OP you should totally make burgers! Here's my family burger recipe if you want to try it:
Ingredients:
Patties:
- 1kg ground beef (ask your butcher for a high-fat blend if you can, chuck and brisket is nice)
- 1 cup panko breadcrumbs
- 2 eggs
- 1 tbsp Worcestershire/Bulldog/Tonkatsu sauce
- 2 tsp sea salt flakes
- 1 tsp freshly cracked black pepper
- 4 tbsp olive oil
Burgers:
- 8 crusty bread rolls, halved and lightly toasted on the grill
- 8 slices of your favourite cheese (if you can get it, I recommend Port Salut)
- 4 tomatoes, sliced 1 red onion, finely sliced Lettuce, washed and DRIED (use a salad spinner or drip dry in the drainer, nobody likes wet lettuce)
- LOTS of dill pickles. Do not accept any pickle with a recipe closer than Prague.
- The Polski Ogorki and Malosolnye Ogurtsy are the best.
- Whole-egg mayonnaise Tomato relish (or ketchup if you must)
- Mustard (a nice Dijon, Thomy or Maille, or a wholegrain is nice. Don't put that squeezy yellow crap on there.)
Instructions
- Put the mince, breadcrumbs, egg, sauce, salt and pepper in a bowl, and mix well with your hands. Split the mixture into 8 balls and flatten them into patties. Go large, they'll shrink a bit as they cook. Make a dent in one side of the patty. I don't know why you have to do this, but my Gran insists.
- Sprinkle them with olive oil (brush the grill plate as well) and then cook them on your grill until they look delicious. Some people say only turn them once but I saw an article one time that says to turn them every 20 seconds? I've tried both and they're both fine. You can do them in a pan too. If you want the cheese melted, you can put it on the burger a minute or so before they're finished.
You can use a meat thermometer if you really care about done-ness but that's out of my league. I'm lazy. It's usually about ten minutes.
You can put the burgers together for your guests, but (like I said, I'm lazy) I like to just put out the toppings and let people dress their own!
Updateme if you make them, my Gran's been following your posts (she loves Reddit but doesn't have an account) and she'd get such a kick out of you making her burgers!
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GingerAle_MTL OP · 4 hours ago
Thank you, I will try these. I am on a macrobiotic diet though, so I might need to make some tweeks.
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ChaosGremlin99 · 20 hours ago
I saw him, and then I almost died. Everything’s fine now.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN “EVERYTHING’S FINE NOW”???? You cannot drop “I almost died” in a title and then say “everything’s fine” like you’re giving a weather report. What happened???
GingerAle_MTL OP · 18 hours ago
Sorry. I probably should have structured the title better. I got hurt at work—it was serious but I’m recovering well. I can’t go into details about what happened because it would identify my career. But I’m okay. I promise.
ChaosGremlin99 · 16 hours ago
You are the most aggressively calm person on this entire website.
prairie_dog_rights · 3 hours ago
Teach him to fish. I'm serious. Competitive people get OBSESSED with fishing once they start. Give him something to beat you at and he'll never want to leave.
no_sleep_till_boston · 2 hours ago
This is actually genius. Nothing keeps a competitive person at a lake house like telling them you've caught a bigger fish than they have.
GingerAle_MTL OP · 2 hours ago
Oh this is good. He would absolutely refuse to leave until he'd caught a bigger one than me. I'm going to buy a second rod.
vibes_and_crimes · 3 hours ago
"obscenely attractive" we KNOW buddy. You've told us AND he's told us. Several times. Across multiple posts. We are aware that your man is hot. Are you both like VOUGE models or something? Secret identities and super hot dudes fucking?
GingerAle_MTL OP · 2 hours ago
I will stop mentioning it when it stops being true. And to quote James Bond: "I’m afraid you’ve mistaken me for someone interesting."
full_send_Fridays · 2 hours ago
Bro you have a lake, a hot tub, jet skis, no neighbors, and a man who's been in love with you for seven years. You could serve him cereal on a paper plate and he'd still have the best two weeks of his life. Stop overthinking it.
quietlyqueer_2891 · 19 hours ago
"I went to his hotel room and I told him I was gay. I’d never said that out loud before."
How did that feel?
GingerAle_MTL OP · 17 hours ago
Terrifying. And then he laughed at me, which I did not love in the moment but in retrospect I think was his way of saying “yes, I know, I have known, we have been sleeping together for six and a half years, this is not new information.” He’s not cruel about things like this. He’s just very blunt and sometimes his sense of humor is hard to read if you don’t know him.
two_cats_no_plan · 4 hours ago
Okay practical advice since everyone else is just crying:
1. Competitive man + kayak = make it a race. Don't teach him, challenge him. He'll figure it out fast if his ego is involved.
2. Bonfire: bring good alcohol. Nobody hates a bonfire if there's expensive whiskey.
3. Let him make fun of your car. If he's anything like you've described, teasing you IS his love language.
GingerAle_MTL OP · 3 hours ago
I have very good whiskey. And you're right about the teasing, he's been teasing me since 2008 and I don't think he's ever going to stop. At this point I'd worry if he didn't. Is it weird that I would miss it?