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My cousin (18m) got called "avoidant" by his best friend/roommate (18m) after an argument

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Posted by u/tonton 22 hours ago

TL;DR: My cousin and his best friend got into a heated argument because the aforementioned best friend was salty that my cousin was talking about another friend. When my cousin walked away to preserve his feelings, his best friend called him avoidant

Someone please just tell me what the hell "avoidant" even means. Thanks.

Edit: I only remembered this a literal second after I already posted it. But it started to rain while they were arguing, and my cousin is now bundled up sick and alone in their apartment. He doesn’t know where his friend is staying. My cousin wants hugs. My cousin is very sad. I think they miss Pang a lot :/

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r/relationship_advice · Posted by u/tonton 22 hours ago.

My cousin (18m) got called "avoidant" by his best friend/roommate (18m) after an argument

Hey, this is my first time using Reddit outside of my sad attempts at trying to get noticed by Kim Doyoung during his AMAs, lol. I don't really know how any of this works, but I need to get this off my chest because it's been really bothering me. In short, this is my last resort.

As seen from the title, this is NOT!!! about me. I would never walk away from an argument unprompted. Only stupid people do that. However, my stupid cousin is apparently an avoidant, and I don't know what to tell him anymore. Also, I have no idea what “avoidant" even means, so some insight on that would be nice.

For context, my cousin and his friend (let's call him Pang) have known each other since middle school, so it's been like... six years since they first became friends. My cousin is very closed off, but Pang was the first person to approach him in their class despite being an introvert himself. From then on, they've been inseparable.

A few months before they graduated, Pang proposed the idea of getting an apartment together, as they're going to the same university anyway. My cousin agreed because it was convenient and cheaper for them both. By the way, these two have never fought a single day in their lives, like EVER. They banter every now and then, but they haven't had any serious arguments until now.

I guess it all started when Pang became clingier..? My cousin is usually the one to initiate physical contact, and they always joke around about how Pang acts like a tsundere when they're together, lol. For some odd reason, Pang started hugging him and holding his hand when they began to move their stuff into their apartment. My cousin thought it was a one-time thing, but Pang only acted even stranger when they actually moved in.

As I said, my cousin is a very closed off person, but they had a few mutual friends in high school. One of those friends came over to their apartment two days ago to play games with my cousin. After they left, Pang had noticeably gotten sulky, and my cousin thought nothing of it since Pang has even more friends than him lol.

Anyways, while they were eating dinner together, Pang randomly started asking him about relationships??? I don't know about my cousin, but I don't think he sees their other friend like that. My cousin probably would never think about dating someone like him. In fact, I think Pang is even closer to his ideal type, lol.

Pang asked to watch a movie later that night and he ended up falling asleep on my cousin's shoulder. For some reason, my cousin got a really weird feeling when that happened. They've fallen asleep like that before, but this time was weird. I don't know how to describe it BECAUSE I WASN'T THE ONE WHO EXPERIENCED IT but I think it's what people feel when they experience heart palpitations...

They didn't really talk about it after they woke up, but they had to get groceries, so like... They walked to the store together, and my cousin randomly brought that other friend up. Pang gets visibly annoyed by this again when they finish shopping, and I guess that's where my cousin gets fed up.

It went something like:

Cousin: What's your problem with (friend)?

Pang: I literally have no idea what you're talking about

Cousin: Yes you do, you got angry when he came over yesterday, and now you're angry again

Pang: No I'm not

So then my cousin brings up the fact that Pang has invited some of his friends over too!!! The difference between them is that my cousin didn't say anything about it and stayed in his room like a normal person. Again, they've never fought seriously before.

Pang tries to backtrack and explain that their friendship means a lot to him, and my cousin's friend has absolutely nothing to do with what he's feeling (I don't even know what that means). At this point, my cousin is already walking away from him while still carrying their groceries.

He then starts chasing after him in the street, and I think Pang was trying to say something, but my cousin cut him off. He said something among the lines of, "I don't want to talk to you when we're both obviously not in the right mindset." He kept walking away, but then Pang called him an avoidant for not continuing their conversation(???) until he eventually walked away too. Mind you, he still has some of their groceries.

TL;DR: My cousin and his best friend got into a heated argument because the aforementioned best friend was salty that my cousin was talking about another friend. When my cousin walked away to preserve his feelings, his best friend called him avoidant

Someone please just tell me what the hell "avoidant" even means. Thanks.

Edit: I only remembered this a literal second after I already posted it. But it started to rain while they were arguing, and my cousin is now bundled up sick and alone in their apartment. He doesn’t know where his friend is staying. My cousin wants hugs. My cousin is very sad. I think they miss Pang a lot :/

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onyourmark · 21 hours ago

yo dude, what the fuck?

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tonton · 21 hours ago

if you’re going to comment smth, could you at least give some insight? lol

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hyuckie · 21 hours ago

your generation has no hope if this is the state of your comprehension skills.

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tonton · 21 hours ago

? what does that even mean

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daengkim · 21 hours ago

op didn’t even attempt to hide that he’s the “cousin” in question

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tonton · 21 hours ago

no i’m not lol

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daengkim · 21 hours ago

stop using lol when you have nothing to say

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ushiii · 20 hours ago

OP, can I ask about your “cousin’s” dynamic with his friend?

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tonton · 20 hours ago

um so like they’ve also been in the same dance club since middle school so they do a lot of covers tgt. also i believe they’re each other’s first kisses

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ushiii · 20 hours ago

Hey so what the hell's wrong with you

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rikuma · 20 hours ago

op, i think you should’ve told us about the first kiss part in the actual post…

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tonton · 20 hours ago

to be fair, idk if my cousin was his friend’s first kiss. who knows, maybe he has other friends he likes to kiss on the lips lol

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rikuma · 20 hours ago

??? why do both of you have jealousy issues

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tonton · 20 hours ago

how many times do i have to say that this isn’t about me lol

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jjedno · 19 hours ago

I don’t think anyone has actually answered your question, but from my understanding, avoidant is one of four known attachment styles

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tonton · 19 hours ago

okay still doesn’t answer my question

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hendeREAL · 19 hours ago

bro what do you think it means

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tonton · 19 hours ago

like when you avoid things after a fight??

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DunkItChenle · 19 hours ago

Are u sure you and ur homie don’t have a thing for each other

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tonton · 19 hours ago

1) this isn't about me and 2) why would they like each other

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renjjunz · 19 hours ago

God help the children.

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yongie · 17 hours ago

Hi, just popping in to actually answer your question. Basically, someone with an avoidant attachment style usually prioritizes independence in a relationship. They're intimidated by the thought of intimacy (both physical and emotional) and this may cause them to drift apart from their partner even when they know that it can cause their relationship harm.

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tonton · 17 hours ago

then what's the opposite? the confrontational type??? someone who faces it head-on?????

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yutaya · 17 hours ago

pretty sure it's just secure attachment

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tonton · 17 hours ago

huh?????????

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kuncandoit · 15 hours ago

I think someone already answered your question, but I'll give my two cents as a psych major. Avoidants typically suppress their emotions and avoid asking for help as much as possible (which may be linked to one's childhood). Also, they tend to be quite pessimistic about relationships and try to pinpoint flaws in their partner to find an easy way out. I don't think your “cousin” is necessarily avoidant by walking away, but to each their own, I guess?

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tonton · 15 hours ago

i'm so confused, isn't avoidant attachment basically secure attachment? like just someone who doesn't want to fight?

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kuncandoit · 15 hours ago

Well yeah but in this scenario they've already fought, and the only thing your cousin did was walk away to avoid talking about it

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tonton · 15 hours ago

oh… ty for answering

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KimDoyoungOfficial · 14 hours ago

I think your cousin may want to talk this over with his friend ^^ I also don't think he's an avoidant person, but there's clearly something both of them are hiding from each other…

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tonton · 14 hours ago

HELLO????? WHY IS KIM DOYOUNG INTERACTING WITH THIS POST……… ON HIS OFFICIAL ACCOUNT TOO.

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ChicagoGrimReaper · 12 hours ago

Hey kid, when you argue with other people, do you usually walk away too?

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ChicagoGrimReaper · 12 hours ago

I meant ur cousin, my bad

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tonton · 12 hours ago

no and i guess that's the frustrating part :/ because my cousin used to be in debate in high school and purposely chose the minor side every time. he never backed down from it, but if he lost, it'd bother him all night

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ChicagoGrimReaper · 12 hours ago

And how have you been sleeping lately

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tonton · 12 hours ago

not very good

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tenlee · 11 hours ago

See, that's the problem with your generation, you're obsessed with labels. So you like boys, doesn't mean you're avoidant. Just means you're awful.

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tonton · 11 hours ago

? what

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djxiao · 11 hours ago

quoting glee in 2026 is CRAZY

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tenlee · 11 hours ago

Man fuck you

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KiaTigersSuperfan · 10 hours ago

The way you didn’t even mention how the two of you got “married” in high school

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tonton · 10 hours ago

who are you and why do you know that.

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KiaTigersSuperfan · 10 hours ago

? I’m offended that you couldn't tell by my username alone but “Pang” is staying with me btw

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tonton · 10 hours ago

i’m reporting you.

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KiaTigersSuperfan · 10 hours ago

?????????

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tonton · 10 hours ago

i’m going to sleep bye

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sakuppang · 2 hours ago

ngl i relate to your cousin’s friend a lot. i said something rlly mean when my friend and i fought the other day :( idk if he even wants to see me rn because i’d been acting rlly weird around him even before we argued

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sakuppang · 1 hour ago

wait a minute.

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KiaTigersSuperfan · 52 minutes ago

Lord...

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daengkim · 48 minutes ago

i’m crying is this the pang in question

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ushiii · 30 minutes ago

Hey I just want to tell you that you and your friend are both rlly stupid

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rikuma · 21 minutes ago

LMFAOOOOOOOO

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Ryo quickly comprehends that something is very wrong.

For starters, it's already ten in the morning, and he hasn't done anything productive yet. To be fair to him, it's difficult to be productive when he's burning up with a 38⁰C fever, but that certainly didn't stop him from meticulously cleaning his and Sakuya's apartment all day long yesterday. When he didn't know what to do, his only resort was to clean in hopes that it'll get his mind off whatever dilemma he was going through. Though, he supposes that posting on Reddit was his actual last resort.

The apartment was perfectly pristine now, but it didn't matter if Sakuya wasn't there with him.

Ryo suddenly jumps awake at the thought, remembering the exact predicament he was in right now. He doubts that Sakuya is returning home anytime soon, and even if he did come home, he certainly couldn't have learned how to cook in the span of two days. So who in the world was frying bacon outside?

He frantically gets up from bed, reaching for his phone. Immediately, he feels all the blood rushing to his head, and Ryo involuntarily lets out a groan at the pain. He clutches his nape, silently praying that his fever would soon die down. He would much rather die at the hands of a potential murderer than live another day with his headache.

Then, the door to his room opens, and Ryo concludes that he really would have preferred the murderer route.

"Ryo," Sakuya calls out his name, his voice laced with concern. Sakuya doesn't know how obvious it is that he deliberately lowers his voice whenever they talk to each other, but there's no way Ryo can pretend like it doesn't do things to his heart.

The younger was holding a full plate of breakfast in one hand—eggs and bacon on one side while a bowl of soup was stacked on the other side. His other hand held a glass of water mixed with Ryo's medicine, and he realized that Sakuya must have kicked the door with his foot.

Sakuya places both the plate and the glass on his nightstand, opting to kneel down in front of Ryo. "Why didn't you tell me you were sick? I know we weren't on good terms last time we talked, but I would have come back the moment I found out you weren't feeling well." He holds onto Ryo's hands.

Ryo lets out a confused noise at the back of his throat, trying to think of how Sakuya could have possibly discovered that. "W-who told you I was sick? I'm not sick." He coughs, immediately giving away his lie.

"Ryo, please, I know I called you avoidant the other day, and it was wrong of me to say that when the only thing you did was walk away, but please," Sakuya pleads, forcing Ryo to look him in the eye, "please don't walk away this time, Ryo."

They sit in silence for a while, Ryo's hands still in Sakuya's. The older remembers that this is the exact same way he felt when Sakuya accidentally fell asleep on his shoulder.

"Saku, please stand up," he musters the courage to speak. Ryo's voice is a bit raspy, but he manages to sound firm. "Your knees will hurt."

Sakuya nods and lets go of his hands to sit beside him. Ryo almost wants to complain about the loss.

"Okay so," Sakuya sighs, looking down at the floor, "I saw your Reddit post this morning."

Ryo goes wide-eyed. "I literally have no idea what you're talking about."

"Ryo," Sakuya says firmly, and that's enough to shut him up.

"Before you say anything, Sion hyung has nothing to do with this. I stumbled on your post on my own, and it honestly took me a while to realize that it was about me despite your horrible attempts of concealing our identities," he admits, laughing to himself as he explains. "I immediately regretted saying that you were avoidant once you walked away, because we both know that's not true. You take things head-on, and it's something I've always admired you for."

Sakuya pauses before continuing, trying his best to keep eye contact. "You were right back then... We both weren't in our right headspaces, and I'm glad we stopped before it turned into something worse. I was frustrated that you weren't hearing me out about what I was feeling."

Ryo nods, taking the initiative to hold his hand again. "I'm sorry too for not letting you explain. I guess you already know what I feel from my post, but it felt like I was seeing a side of you that you didn't want me to see."

"You said that it seemed like I was going to say something before you walked away, and you're right." Sakuya gulps, confirming his thoughts. "It's the reason why I'd been acting so clingy even before the fight happened."

"I..." Ryo could physically feel how Sakuya's pulse rushed in his wrist.

"I like you a lot, Ryo," Sakuya finally confesses, looking away. "I've liked you for so long, and it took me a long time to finally accept it, but I'm not afraid to hide it any longer."

Deep down, Ryo always knew that the way his heart beat a few thumps faster whenever he was with Sakuya wasn't normal. It wasn't normal that he was bitter over the thought of him not being Sakuya's first kiss—hell, it wasn’t even normal that his best friend was his first kiss—but he's pushed it down for so many years that he's managed to ignore it and pass it off as something else. Now, he recognizes it as the god-honest truth: he was in love with Fujinaga Sakuya.

He doesn't even realize he's crying until he feels Sakuya wiping his tears with his thumb. "I'm so sorry—oh my god, I shouldn't have done this while you were sick," Sakuya apologizes frantically.

Ryo quickly shakes his head, giggling amidst his sniffles. "Saku, I promise I'm not crying because of that," he reassures him. "I'm just... really happy."

This time, he's the one struggling to look at Sakuya. "I like you, too, Saku, and it's honestly kinda sad that it's taken us this long to admit it. It's also kinda unfair that you confessed while I'm sick and I'm not in the right mind to articulate what I really feel."

Sakuya laughs at this, handing him the forgotten plate on the nightstand. "I immediately rushed back when I read your post. Believe it or not, I actually learned how to cook while I was at Sion hyung's."

The older hums, examining the burnt pieces of bacon. "Saku, I think you should stick to baking next time."

Sakuya doesn't even take a glance away from his face, smiling to himself. "I think I should."

Ryo thinks he could get used to this.

Notes:

yes, i wrote this solely because of ryo's recent bubble messages

anyways i used this reddit skin as a template. after 4-ish grueling hours of troubleshooting the code, i can now affirm that i'm never going to use my 10th grade html skills for a fic again, i say as a suspiciously shaped mahae fic sits in my google docs